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    Posted: April 12 2004,12:39 pm QUOTE

Hi,

I'm a newcomer to Navicache though I've been around another geocaching place for a few months.

My question is simple.  Does Navicache allow locationless caches, aka reverse caches  aka Buxleys etc?

The reason I ask is that I'd like to enable the continuation of a fascinating series of locationlesses which has been discontinued elsewhere for the silliest of reasons.

I believe that locationlesses such as this one would enhance and vitalise Navicache and help to elevate it somewhat in the balance between Navicache and that other place.


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    Posted: April 12 2004,4:30 pm QUOTE

I am not sure what reasons were given for there being discontinued where you had them listed, but they (locationless caches) do present several issues for a listing service. Another problem is that while we welcome (and enjoy) all the twists on the sport of geocaching, these are not really "geocaches" by definition and why many disapprove of them. In any case I will not say that Locationless/Reverse caches are not allowed here, but at the same time I must be honest in the fact that it may be pretty tough to get listed. My suggestion is that you either submit them for review and possible approval, or maybe it would be easier if they are already listed elsewhere to just provide a link and we could take a look to see if it is a possibility.

Edited by PC Medic on April 13 2004,5:46 pm

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    Posted: April 12 2004,4:46 pm QUOTE

I entirely agree that locationlesses do not deserve or fit the name of geocaching as they are not particularly geographical and never have a cache at them.

Nevertheless, the particular locationless I have in mind as an example of one which really needs an online home is the Victorian letterbox one which had been very popular among some afficionados at another place.

The 'cache' had been a lot of fun and had been a great success, but some nut (not a member of Geocaching.com or this place) thought that publishing the co-ords of letterboxes might encourage or enable terrorism.

The 'other place' discontinued that locationless on that basis, and I believe that they made fools of themselves by so doing.

If such an interesting and popular (and non-profit) locationless cache can be hosted here, then I for one will want to hang around here and do my geocaching here rather than at the 'other' place.

If this joint is to attract some of the thinking members away from big brother next door, then perhaps this simple little locationless might be a way for Navicache to fly the colours of freedom and allow free-spirited geocachers to have an alternative to geocaching.com


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    Posted: April 12 2004,7:01 pm QUOTE

Again, we 'consider' all submissions, so the best I can say is submit it or provide a link to the other listing so that we may take a look. We certainly can not give an approval of something we have not yet seen.

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    Posted: April 12 2004,8:27 pm QUOTE

Quote (The Forester @ April 12 2004,5:46 pm)
an example of one which really needs an online home is the Victorian letterbox one which had been very popular among some afficionados at another place.

Forester, do you have a link or an ID for reference?

For Navicache, how many locationless submissions have you rejected? Is there a large enough unmet demand out there that a listing service dedicated to such beasts might be justified?


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    Posted: April 13 2004,7:27 pm QUOTE

We have only seen maybe 7-10 submissions so I would not see a demand for a dedicated site. I also believe someone actually did start one at one time and due to lack of activity it fell by the wayside.

Again, we do not prohibit them, but because of the submissions we have seen so far (manhole covers, phone booth in favorite pub, etc), we have been careful in what was approved. We do  currently have a few active here. Of course the more unique the item required the better chance it stands of approval.


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    Posted: April 19 2004,4:37 pm QUOTE

Interesting request :cool:
This thread at the GSP UK fora seems to be a complaint thread about the archiving.  Server errors are currently preventing my search for the actuall listing.


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    Posted: April 19 2004,5:43 pm QUOTE

Yes, I had seen that thread, but have been unable to find a listing for a cache by that name. Perhaps it was for Premium Members only??? Which I am not  :grinnin

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    Posted: Sep. 02 2004,4:03 pm QUOTE

This is the link you needVictorian Mailboxes
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    Posted: Sep. 03 2004,10:21 am QUOTE

This cache has been on Navicache as well and I notice that it has been archived here as well.

Why publishing coords of letterboxes should help terrorists I really can't fathom. Obviously bright red boxes all over the countryside are so hard to find without the coords and I assume that Victorian ones make much better bombs   :D
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    Posted: Sep. 03 2004,10:28 am QUOTE

Quote (Icenians @ Sep. 03 2004,12:21 pm)
This cache has been on Navicache as well and I notice that it has been archived here as well.

Why publishing coords of letterboxes should help terrorists I really can't fathom.

Just want to point out that the isting here was Retired by the cache owner and not the administrators. I agree and find it foolish that posting coordinates of letter boxes (mail boxes) would promote terrorist activity  :rolleyes

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    Posted: Sep. 03 2004,10:50 am QUOTE

Quote (PC Medic @ Sep. 03 2004,12:28 pm)
Quote (Icenians @ Sep. 03 2004,12:21 pm)
This cache has been on Navicache as well and I notice that it has been archived here as well.

Why publishing coords of letterboxes should help terrorists I really can't fathom.

Just want to point out that the isting here was Retired by the cache owner and not the administrators. I agree and find it foolish that posting coordinates of letter boxes (mail boxes) would promote terrorist activity  :rolleyes

I've just noticed I'm months behind on this and it was Forester that set and retred the cache. I really should look more carefully before typing  :)


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Posted: Dec. 15 2005,5:27 pm QUOTE

At GC I was never a big fan of locationless caches ,even though I have added a few to my GC totals recently,my pet peeve on them is GC says only one person at that particular find(catagory of the find) ,then no one else can use the same one ,must go find another one that is not been found to get credit for it ,that's kinda screwy because on a regular cache mutiple cachers log their find when they find it,I always felt like others should locate same locationless cache to get credit for that cache,that's just my 2 cents,I wouldn't be against having them here if the rules was alot different on them  :rock:

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