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    Posted: Nov. 03 2003,1:44 pm QUOTE

I have never attempted to access this sitewith anything other than my pc. My post above was intended to get those folks crying that they needed the site accessible by (insert random device name here) should let the masses get something that works first. I spose I'll give it a go and come up with something that looks ok. Then again, aesthetics (sp?) are all subjective anyway.

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Regarding the logo (which are Trade Marks by the way), we have settled on one for use on the site.


I did a search on US Patent & Trademark's site for "Navicache" they are showing no record of a trademark. If it is actually trademarked, I really suggest that you indicate as such. This is for the site owners own protection.


Edited by axcion on Nov. 03 2003,1:44 pm

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    Posted: Nov. 03 2003,4:39 pm QUOTE

Actually from what I see in emails and the server stat pages, others are accessing it with (insert random device name here). Most apparently for the reasons I mentioned. We will put more priority on this area in the future.

The other point you mention regarding TradeMark is getting a bit off topic for this thread so, I will keep it short in saying they are, and that it is so indicated throughout the site.


Edited by PC Medic on Nov. 03 2003,5:59 pm

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Posted: Nov. 08 2003,2:02 pm QUOTE

First I'll say the positive stuff. I like the look of the site overall, and the cache pages are fine. I love the facilities icons idea and the scoring system, much better idea than the other place.

The Forums are slick and fast, also much more reliable than the other place. I also like the fact that the entire database is available in xml, as I use autoroute (S&T) and with a quick tweak through Excel, I have precise arkers for every Navicache in the world, much better than 20 at a time, unless you pay $3 a month and still then it's only possible to do them 500 at a time through EasyGPS.

I also relish the idea that I can find a few caches here and there that some of he "elitist snobs" that can be found elsewhere will never find because they won't look here. (please don't think I mean everyone at the other place, but there are a few geosnobs around)

Now, for a little of the negative stuff. I see a lot of provisions for functionality in the pages that are not enabled yet. Whilst I understand that these things take time and also that its nice to know what's coming, a lot of people may come here and give up on the site, as "half the site doesn't work" strangely enough, human nature would rather have a full small glass than the same measure in a larger glass.

I'd also like to see some more functionality for Hitchikers and waypoint downloads for EasyGPS. I have worked out how to do this, but it's not as easy as downloading a .loc file.

I like the search facilities,  but I'd like to see search by type/size added, also some indication of this on the search results.

Overall, I can forgive the negatives, as there are plenty of positives, I think this is a great site, and I ully intend to do whatever I can to help it up there head to head with the "other place"

Here's a suggestion for a "one up" how about a translation tool of some kind. I know everyone has a right to use their own language, but this sport is about a worldwide community, and the most widely spoken language is english. I am sure I will go caching when in foreign countries, but I'll have totranslate the cache page somehow.


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    Posted: Nov. 08 2003,3:12 pm QUOTE

Volvo Man:
Thanks for the kudos AND the critigue' we are always open to both.

As for the 'coming soon' that has yet to come, this as many of the more seasoned and regular visitors to Navicache know was a result of one of our team (also being the one that authors most of our scripts) being injured in an accident that he is still recovering from. This put some projects that were in progress at the time on hold and delayed the start of some others. While we have just recently started some of the work again, it is taking some time as long long delay required us to first recompile a 'To Do' list, and then re-prioritize this new and larger list (which by the way already contains all but one of your suggestions). In fact it is for this reason that I have recently solicited the help of an additional team member to assist with scripts.

Regarding the 'translation tool'.. Because we are well aware this is an international sport, this too is something I have looked into. Unfortunately it is not as simple as passing it through some translation software. The problem is that the languages do not always translate across very well with the automated translation tools because the word order is often different. For example, while in some cases it may make it 'understandable' for someone to use one of these tools for a German translation, in many cases it is more a source of amusement. So this is something that we will work on from a different angle instead.

In the mean time we appreciate everyones patience.


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    Posted: Nov. 09 2003,2:09 am QUOTE

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Regarding the 'translation tool'.. Because we are well aware this is an international sport, this too is something I have looked into. Unfortunately it is not as simple as passing it through some translation software. The problem is that the languages do not always translate across very well with the automated translation tools because the word order is often different. For example, while in some cases it may make it 'understandable' for someone to use one of these tools for a German translation, in many cases it is more a source of amusement. So this is something that we will work on from a different angle instead.

In the mean time we appreciate everyones patience.

PC Medic said:

Regarding the 'translation tool'.. Because we are well aware this is an international sport, this too is something I have looked into. Unfortunately it is not as simple as passing it through some translation software. The problem is that the languages do not always translate across very well with the automated translation tools because the word order is often different. For example, while in some cases it may make it 'understandable' for someone to use one of these tools for a German translation, in many cases it is more a source of amusement.


Couldn't help but to laugh! I actually went through the whole translation thing for French, German, Spanish, and Russian for a 100+ page fan site I built.

EVERY SINGLE visitor that used one of the aforementioned languages left some quite funny remarks to me in e-mails....

The jist of which was....:angry: PLEASE DON'T BUTCHER OUR LANGUAGE LIKE THIS!  :angry: Those automatic translators DO NOT work. :angry: Alas, none of them actually volunteered to help fix it!

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    Posted: Nov. 09 2003,4:04 pm QUOTE

Great to hear all my suggestions are already on the to do list, I figured they would be, but its always worth mentioning just incase someone overlooked them  :)

I know what you mean about the translation tool, but the main thing I was thinking was a translation to English, as this seems to be more understandable with different word order. From what I remember, french litterally translated into english sounds a lot like Yoda!!

Perhaps enlisting the help of a few volunteers from around the world, to translate pages to english. I suggest this as it is the most understood language in the world. Those of us that live in countries that have english as their first language shold be ashamed of the fact that very few of our citizens are multilingual, compared to other nations that have a very high percentage of citizens that can at least understand english, and many who speak it better than we do, (The germans, and scandinavians are prime examples)

Lastly, whilst I am one of those shameful monolingual people, anything else I can do to help the site, just let me know. :)


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    Posted: Jan. 09 2004,6:05 pm QUOTE

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Comments on the site;
1. I agree the issue of the ability to log in 1x to both areas needs to be cleaned up. Get us on and let us go.


A single login for both the main site and forums is a planned feature , but also a very complex one that will take some time to implement. Database cleansing is one issue that must be worked out before this can be done.

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2. I like the color scheme.


Us too! :grinnin

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3. I like the score totals. I have a greater interest in the higher rated caches to keep my average "up" so I do not like having to view a cache listing to see the cache rating. Provide the rating w/ the cache name.


This was discussed at one time and lost the vote (though I do not remember why). I suppose we could revisit the idea.

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4. In my opinion the 'newest caches' page should be more region/country specific. Possibly have columns of new caches by dividing the world into regions or countries. I personally do not have any interest in searching thru the new euro listings for the new NY or USA caches.


The 'Newest Caches' page is just that, a list of ALL the newest cache submissions. Using the Detailed search you can narrow the list to a given state (or any number of other search criteria) should you prefer. To add this same feature to the newest cache page would be redundant. That is not to say in the future this will not change once members home location is added to their profiles.


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    Posted: Dec. 30 2004,11:31 pm QUOTE

OK, heres my 2 cents,
The color is fine by me, no matter what color is used, there will always be someone who dosn't like it be it bule, green, plaid, whatever. At least it's not some eye scorching neon pink :tungue2
The basic functionality could use some "tweaks", the "Home" button could maybe take us back to the "my Navicache" page instead of the login. The post a log page could be changed so that the "log type" is in a pull down box and set so that if someone does not select a type they get an error message and have to choose a log type.
The forums are great, no tweaks needed
The GPX downloads could give us some more info such as container size/type, state, and the last 4-5 logs ( like GC's)
It would be nice to be able to search the newest caches from a certain starting point, even if it was just a zip code
One other nice thing to have would be an e-mail notification of new caches in the area ( Premium Member feature maybe?? )
Other than that I think this site is great!


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    Posted: Dec. 31 2004,5:34 am QUOTE

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OK, heres my 2 cents,
The color is fine by me, no matter what color is used, there will always be someone who dosn't like it be it bule, green, plaid, whatever. At least it's not some eye scorching neon pink :tungue2

While some site redesign is in the works, you are correct, there will always be those that think may not be happy with the colors or some other aspect of the layout, but we try

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The basic functionality could use some "tweaks", the "Home" button could maybe take us back to the "my Navicache" page instead of the login.


This is intentional and probably will remain. Some may want to get to the 'sites' home page while others may wish to get to their profile (MyNavicache) page. For this reason the menu contains a link to both and will most likely continue to do so even with the new layout.


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The post a log page could be changed so that the "log type" is in a pull down box and set so that if someone does not select a type they get an error message and have to choose a log type.


This may be possible, but could you provide some feedback as to why you feel drop-down vs the current radio-button method would be more beneficial? Is it simply a matter of not having a current default selection as we do?

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The GPX downloads could give us some more info such as container size/type, state, and the last 4-5 logs ( like GC's)


Our XML interface will download all of this information. With the main purpose of the LOC, GPX and GPSS formats being to allow members access to the data that would most comonly be uploaded to a GPS in order to search for the cache we are attempting to reduce file size by not including irrelevant data.
As always we are open to suggestions and with enough interest this could be made possible as well.

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It would be nice to be able to search the newest caches from a certain starting point, even if it was just a zip code


This can certainly be looked into and will add it to the list.

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One other nice thing to have would be an e-mail notification of new caches in the area ( Premium Member feature maybe?? )


This is already on the list. Other changes are needed first in order for this to function and will be completed as soon as possible. No 'Premium Membership' here, so will most likely be available to everyone.


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    Posted: Dec. 31 2004,1:30 pm QUOTE

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The post a log page could be changed so that the "log type" is in a pull down box and set so that if someone does not select a type they get an error message and have to choose a log type.


This may be possible, but could you provide some feedback as to why you feel drop-down vs the current radio-button method would be more beneficial? Is it simply a matter of not having a current default selection as we do?

I feel the drop down is something most people look for, I've caught myself and had to go back and click the proper button before posting a few times. Not having a default selection is probably the biggest part .


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The GPX downloads could give us some more info such as container size/type, state, and the last 4-5 logs ( like GC's)


Our XML interface will download all of this information. With the main purpose of the LOC, GPX and GPSS formats being to allow members access to the data that would most comonly be uploaded to a GPS in order to search for the cache we are attempting to reduce file size by not including irrelevant data.
As always we are open to suggestions and with enough interest this could be made possible as well.

I'm a GSAK user, that info is needed for the functionality of the software. I think most people that use the GPX files use GSAK, plus not that many of us know how to use the XML interface.

Stuck my answers between yours.

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    Posted: June 30 2009,4:52 pm QUOTE

I'm having a really hard time navigating the map for caches compared to geocaching.com.
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    Posted: June 30 2009,6:37 pm QUOTE

Have you tried Buxley,s waypoints? find your state and then connect the dots to the listed caches.
http://www.brillig.com/geocaching/    :)
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    Posted: July 14 2009,8:24 pm QUOTE

You can also find Navicache geocaches on the maps at GPSgames.org.

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