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    Posted: Oct. 16 2011,2:13 pm QUOTE

On Columbus Day, I was out hunting caches and trying to get to my 3000th find.  I'd based my numbers on thinking I had 28 NC finds, after finding on on Sunday.

I'd thought my last cache of the day was my milestone, but when I got home and was catching up on my logging, I noticed that I seemed to only have 27 NC finds.  I had to sort through ALL my "Searched Caches" to manually count my "Found It" logs to check.  I came up with 27 and figured it was just my mistake.

Today (for the first time), I noticed my stat banner shows 28 finds, but my profile page still shows 27.  I recounted the "thumbs up" icons in the list of my "Searched Caches" and I still get 27.

I really wish I could see a list of ONLY my finds.

I'd settled on 27, but not sure how/why my stat banner now shows 28, if I actually only have 28.  I could understand it not yet being updated to my current total, but it being ahead of my actual finds?


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    Posted: Oct. 24 2011,2:22 pm QUOTE

Found the missing cache!  Yay!

I had logged a found for In The Woods (N02757), but now my find log (need to check on the date) and notes I'd posted on 18 Jan 2010 and 23 Jul 2010 have been deleted (or lost).  The two notes were still there on 17 October 2010, when I printed my list of cache logs (after I noticed the discrepancy).  Luckily, I have a record of the find in GSAK, so can check this evening.

Is there a way to see if the CO, favre99, deleted it or if something else happened?  When I exchanged e-mail with the owner, he hardly remembered the cache listing and didn't know if he'd be able to log into the site.  PC, did you archive the cache, yourself?  Maybe in the process, some logs got deleted?

As of now, I plan to relog it once I know the correct date.


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    Posted: Oct. 24 2011,3:22 pm QUOTE

If you are correct in the date being in 2010 (not 2011) then I could not say with any certainty whether I deleted a log entry or not (Too long ago for this old mind). The only other person that could remove a log entry would be the CO and whether they did or not I could not say.

The only time I will delete a log entry is if it is a 'Note' left by a cacher that states the cache  'No longer exists' or 'should be retired as it has been archived on XXX.xxx site', and there has been no verification of this from the cache owner. The reason for this is that I have received complaints from cache owners that these types of log entries have been left on caches that did in fact still exist. Sometimes someone just could not find it, OR the CO simply chose to no longer cross-list on another site and archived on another listing service, but not on my site.

That is why if one suspects a cache may no longer exist and is unable to contact the CO they should use the 'support' option on the 'Contact Us' form to bring it to my attention. I will then attempt to confirm with the CO. If they do not respond to my request within a specified time I then 'Retire' the cache listing.

As a side note, if a cache one has logged a 'Find' to is ever retired, it does NOT effect your find score (stats).


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    Posted: Oct. 25 2011,7:26 am QUOTE

Quote (PC Medic @ Oct. 24 2011,5:22 pm)
The only time I will delete a log entry is if it is a 'Note' left by a cacher that states the cache  'No longer exists' or 'should be retired as it has been archived on XXX.xxx site', and there has been no verification of this from the cache owner. The reason for this is that I have received complaints from cache owners that these types of log entries have been left on caches that did in fact still exist. Sometimes someone just could not find it, OR the CO simply chose to no longer cross-list on another site and archived on another listing service, but not on my site.

That is why if one suspects a cache may no longer exist and is unable to contact the CO they should use the 'support' option on the 'Contact Us' form to bring it to my attention. I will then attempt to confirm with the CO. If they do not respond to my request within a specified time I then 'Retire' the cache listing.

I will never post, "the cache IS missing or gone," since I can never know that for sure.

In an effort to offer a service to the community, I had been researching Navicaches near me with physical containers.  Doing a bit of research, it is often pretty clear that, if the cache was archived at X site (esp. for having gone missing), that is is likely not worth searching for and that the owner mostly likely simply has forgotten or neglected the listing here.  In those cases, I have posted notes to give prospective seekers a fair warning - still not definitively saying it is gone.   If the owner is active, s/he can simply post a follow-up message.  Of course, I've also sent a note thru the "Support" link, but since this takes time, I have felt a warning to prospective seekers is warranted.

After a planning for a recent trip to the VA Beach area and finding a surprising number of caches that I felt were very likely abandoned (and gone), I've not done much more of  this.


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