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Question: Geocaching Events :: Total Votes:13
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Must be a cache placed at the event 3  [23.08%]
No cache required 9  [69.23%]
Other ( post to the comments below) 1  [7.69%]
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Posted: Sep. 22 2009,3:47 pm QUOTE

OK the question has come up twice in the past few weeks regarding what constitutes a geocaching 'event'.
Because I have tried to let members have a say in most aspects of how the site is run I will open this for opinions.

I have been asked why weekly (or monthly) meet and greets at a local diner, library or where-ever could not be submitted as a cache event listing. I personally do not feel these are 'geocaching events' and would do nothing but clutter the cache database. Imagine all the regional groups submitting their monthly get togethers as a cache event! For this reason I have always suggested this type of get together be posted to the events calendar in the forums instead.

My opinion is to be a geocaching event there should be at least some form of cache hunt during the event.

What is your take on this?


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    Posted: Sep. 22 2009,8:39 pm QUOTE

I appreciate your posting this.  Will be curious as to the responses.

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    Posted: Sep. 23 2009,5:47 am QUOTE

As cachers "evolve" in the pastime, and become members of the various caching organizations, the social aspect of the hobby takes on more significance.  Certainly...hunting a cache(s) at an event is enjoyable, but the networking, camaraderie, and conversation that occurs at an event (any size)...is the glue that holds an organization together.  I do not feel that cache hunting is necessary in order to have a successful event.

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    Posted: Sep. 25 2009,1:27 pm QUOTE

I'd posed this question on some caching organization forums I belong to and zgrav have a really good point on the NoVAGO fourms.

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Second, I think it is reasonable to view a social meeting of cachers as an event. And by doing so, the whole process of creating the event, posting a "will attend" note helps the person planning it to know about how many folks will be coming to the restaurant (or other meeting place), and logging an "attended" reinforces in everyone's mind that it IS an event and not "just" a social gathering.


I know NC doesn't have a Will Attend option for logging event, but at least if it is posted as an event, makes it easier to track expected attendance.  People could post their intentions on the forums, but very few people visit the forums.  This also lessens the effectiveness of the calendar since it is not linked directly on the main page.


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    Posted: Sep. 29 2009,2:48 pm QUOTE

Quote (TooWheelin @ Sep. 23 2009,5:47 am)
As cachers "evolve" in the pastime, and become members of the various caching organizations, the social aspect of the hobby takes on more significance.  Certainly...hunting a cache(s) at an event is enjoyable, but the networking, camaraderie, and conversation that occurs at an event (any size)...is the glue that holds an organization together.  I do not feel that cache hunting is necessary in order to have a successful event.

Bill

I will echo Bill's comments. It's nice to be able to get together with other cachers, swap stories, share advice, impart caching wisdom and build relationships with others.

This can happen with or without a specific cache being placed for the event.

thanks for the chance to contribute.
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    Posted: Oct. 20 2009,8:11 am QUOTE

Looking strongly in favor of "No cache required," so far.  It would be greatly appreciated if anyone who visits these forums would at least answer the poll, even if you don't want to elaborate.

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    Posted: Oct. 26 2009,5:51 pm QUOTE

We went to the  "2nd Navicache Picnic" at Letchworth State Park, and really had a grand time!!!
I enjoyed the Geocaches that were placed at the event too.

But, I do not think it should be a requirment for every get-together.
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    Posted: Nov. 02 2009,7:44 am QUOTE

Quote (JJW @ Oct. 26 2009,7:51 pm)
We went to the  "2nd Navicache Picnic" at Letchworth State Park, and really had a grand time!!!
I enjoyed the Geocaches that were placed at the event too.

But, I do not think it should be a requirment for every get-together.
Regards,
John

John,

Are you sure you voted correctly?  I'm pretty sure the vote was at 3-1 for "No cache required", last I looked.  I guess, however, that it's possible someone else voted and you just posted you thoughts.  Just curious.

Dave


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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,8:16 am QUOTE

For what it's worth, I think an event without a cache hunt still constitute an event.  People will almost always couple the event with a hunt for a nearby hide and even if they do not, it is a strong motivator to get people to attend- and for that reason alone should be OKd as an event.  

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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,8:20 am QUOTE

Event: An occurrence of social or personal importance.

As cachers we seem to have different types of things we participate in. I've attended CITO's, M&G's, picnics & Kick Off events for caching series but they didn't ALL have or require 'caching' to be considered events. I think each person has their own reason for attending. Maybe its for the caching or not but the commonality I think is the camaraderie of sharing time with other people that have very similar interests. I personally attend a mix of all of them. That way if I want to cache I can, if I just want to socialize I can do that as well. My husband will come to the non caching 'events' (because he doesn't cache) but enjoys socializing with the people I cache with.

That all being said I don't feel that caches should be a requirement to classify a specific activity as an event. If people want to cache there are always caches in & around the area they can hunt for if they would like.
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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,9:07 am QUOTE

Good comments, cphug184 & MW.

To any future contributors - don't forget to vote in the poll in addition to posting your thoughts.


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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,9:20 am QUOTE

Hi all, I voted for "no cache required" because at geocaching.com or opencaching.de an event is just a special type of "cache", and Your "attended" log is equal to a "found" log. It would be nice to see events being able
here at nc, but first priority should be to renovate the gui :p Because a better gui or ease-of-use gives you more member and caches! Best wishes from berlin/germany!
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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,9:42 am QUOTE

I voted other. I would have a hard time justifying a monthly club meeting as a logable event. A quarterly club sponsored event I think would be okay as these usually bring in cachers that might not be club members. :cool:

BTW: no cache required but a log book to sign at the event should be a must  :;):


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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,10:31 am QUOTE

I think that the primary purpose of an event is for geocachers to get together and that the primary purpose of the listing is to designate a place and time.  I'd say that the events that I have listed on this site were more about socializing and "talking cache" than finding more boxes of toys in the woods so I voted "no cache required".

In the interest of not cluttering the database with weekly or monthly events, I think that event organizers should be encouraged to reuse a single listing by editing it rather than creating a new one each time.  The good thing about this website is that it's a lot more flexible than the other one.  You can chage the time, place or retire (archive) the listing for your event  AND bring it back from the dead if need be.  Reviewer intervention is not required for every little thing over here on Navicache!
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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,11:12 am QUOTE

QM - Interesting idea about reusing the cache page.  Not sure if it's a huge benefit over archiving and republishing when it comes to not cluttering up the site, though.  I could live with it, though, if that was they way it was over here.

KJ - I've been hosting a monthly get together, which is neither a club meeting nor a club sponsored event.  Just me offering a chance for folks to come chat and eat.  I was listing them on GC, TC, and NC.  I'm still hosting them, but they just aren't beeing listed here and therefore not giving NC the publicity they were.

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    Posted: Nov. 03 2009,3:55 pm QUOTE

I believe that an event does not need a physical cache. The event is for socializing and catching up with old friends and hopefully meeting some new ones.

Oh yeah, and the food!  :rollwink
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    Posted: Nov. 04 2009,5:18 pm QUOTE

Dave, I thought I had voted cache not required. The more a group can get together with or without a cache the stronger the following will be.
YMMV,
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    Posted: Nov. 04 2009,8:36 pm QUOTE

Thanks.  I figured as much.  So the poll results should actually be...

1 - Required
9 - Not Required
1 - Other

A shame this site doesn't allow you to change your vote.


PCMedic - Can you fix JJW's vote?


Edited by DudleyGrunt on Nov. 10 2009,7:00 am

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    Posted: Nov. 19 2009,1:39 pm QUOTE

At this time I am willing to alter things a bit and allow 'Event' cache listings even though it may not actually include a physical cache.

Like any cache submission they will require the usual review and approval. There will also be some restrictions in that no member may have more than one active 'Event' cache listing at any given time and can not sponsor more than one event per month.
This should be sufficient to allow for monthly meet-and-greet type listings, but also help avoid the 'lets meet every Saturday at the coffee shop' type requests.


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    Posted: Nov. 19 2009,7:58 pm QUOTE

PCMedic -

Thank you.  Those sound like a very reasonable arrangements.

I appreciate your willingness to compromise and work this out.

Dave


Edited by DudleyGrunt on Nov. 19 2009,8:05 pm

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    Posted: Nov. 20 2009,4:56 am QUOTE

Excellant Dudes. Don't ya just love it when it all comes together? Thanks PC for being willing to meet in the middle. Good job guys.  MW
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