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    Posted: Oct. 31 2004,6:31 am QUOTE

Common sense goes a long way when placing a cache and a great example of why can be found in this News Article. There was also a similar incident in Modesto, CA a couple days ago with a cache container found by a janitor on an elementary schools grounds.

Now while I am happy to say that neither of these caches appear to have been listed in our database, I do think it warrants bringing them to your attention.  

When placing caches, they should never be placed on private property without permission ( and yes a public school is private property). I also can not emphasize enough how important it is to clearly mark the outside of your container indicating that it is a geocache and that a Stash Note also be included in the cache describing what it is. While we understand this can become difficult when creating 'micrs', there are still steps that can be taken to help avoid (or at least lessen) these types of incidents.

Now while I definitely do not agee with the comment in the mentioned article that "they need to find another game", I do think some involved need to excercise more caution and common sense.

So the next time you submit a listing and we ask some questions about it, keep this in mind before you give us a hard time.


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    Posted: Nov. 03 2004,4:08 pm QUOTE

I don't think it changes PC Medic's advice, but a public schoolyard is not private property. It's public property, but that doesn't mean that public access is a right. Access without permission may still be forbidden.

Second, getting permission to place a cache won't prevent bomb scares. If someone witnesses a geocacher with an ammo box and calls the police, the bomb squad will spring into action regardless. Having obtained prior permission might help you in court, but it won't keep the bomb squad away.


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    Posted: Nov. 08 2004,8:18 am QUOTE

In the Indiana incident, cache next to the police station, the cache had approval from the Chief of Police.

The Chief sort of forgot to share that info.

Another curiosity is how did the bomb squad get called out for a suspected bomb next to the PD, and no one notified the Chief.


Hmmmmm.........


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    Posted: Aug. 13 2005,3:49 pm QUOTE

Hello I found a cashe on my property here a month ago, the property is in Shelter Valley, CA and I don't go their often. But when i saw this I had thought it was a pipe bomb or some military thing because it was in heavy duty PVC pipe and painted in camouflage. On the outside it had no markings that it was a cashe. Being the inquisitive person I am while knowing this was a stupid thing to do I brought it home. After debating on how to open it incase it was a bomb I just unscrewed the top, and found all sorts of little things. I searched your site and didn't find a listing for it. Just thought I would let someone know and to reinforce that you should have a Stash note on the cashe.
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    Posted: Aug. 18 2005,7:32 pm QUOTE

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Hello I found a cashe on my property here a month ago, the property is in Shelter Valley, CA and I don't go their often. But when i saw this I had thought it was a pipe bomb or some military thing because it was in heavy duty PVC pipe and painted in camouflage. On the outside it had no markings that it was a cashe. Being the inquisitive person I am while knowing this was a stupid thing to do I brought it home. After debating on how to open it incase it was a bomb I just unscrewed the top, and found all sorts of little things. I searched your site and didn't find a listing for it. Just thought I would let someone know and to reinforce that you should have a Stash note on the cashe.

Couldn't find a Zip Code for Shelter Valley, but discovered it's near Julian where I've GeoDashed.  There are tons of caches in Julian.  Help us narrow it down with co-ordinates that you can figure out at TopoZone.

And you're correct: that container is a problem.


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    Posted: Aug. 20 2005,2:17 am QUOTE

Not to mention that it (they) should never be placed on private property without the land owners permission. :angry:
Is there anything in the logbook that may help?


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    Posted: Aug. 20 2005,12:27 pm QUOTE

Thank you enigma1500 for bringing this to our attention and Quinn is right, if you place a cache on private property get the owners permission!

Also, while this is not always possible when (when placing micros) always mark the outside of your containers when possible ESPECIALLY when using retired ammo-cans. We just received an email this morning from The Cheif of Emergency Services in Denton, Texas. Appears someone placed a cache in his area which prompted the dispatch of two police officers, a fire truck, bomb squad and robot to open the container only to find it was a cache. Retired ammo-cans are popular cache containers for the same reason they are popular with campers and hikers... they are weather proof. If you are hoing to use them, please be sure to paint over the military markings and mark the container to identify it as a cache. We offer stickers for this very purpose to help preveny panic when found by unsuspecting passer-by.

Now I have searched our database and this particular cache does not appear to be listed with us, but I still want to mention this as while it should be common sense when placing a cache, it seems sometimes some tend to forget the obvious.

By the way if you had a cache in the Denton area and this location sounds familiar

city of North Lake on Sam Lee Lane, approximately 1/4 mile East of I-35W on the south side of the road, under a tree.

You may want to consider retiring the listing where ever you had it  :(


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    Posted: Jan. 19 2006,4:53 am QUOTE

Seems it is once again time to point out why placement of your cache should be well thought out. Remember not everyone is familiar with the game...yet!

News Story


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    Posted: Jan. 25 2006,9:47 pm QUOTE

That cache put geocaching on the map for every muggle in Idaho.  Since those I work with know I cache I have had all them point out that story.

The unwritten part is this: This cache was never listed.  There is a fair chance that had it been finished and then listed the reivew process would have caught it and the cacher would of been disgruntled but not embarrassed like now.  There is no gurantee.  As it was the bridge crew found it first.


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    Posted: June 17 2007,3:43 pm QUOTE

Quote (PC Medic @ Oct. 31 2004,8:31 am)
Common sense goes a long way when placing a cache and a great example of why can be found in this News Article. There was also a similar incident in Modesto, CA a couple days ago with a cache container found by a janitor on an elementary schools grounds.


Sadly, the link no longer works. :-(


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    Posted: June 19 2007,4:03 pm QUOTE

Quote (Digital_Cowboy @ June 17 2007,5:43 pm)
Quote (PC Medic @ Oct. 31 2004,8:31 am)
Common sense goes a long way when placing a cache and a great example of why can be found in this News Article. There was also a similar incident in Modesto, CA a couple days ago with a cache container found by a janitor on an elementary schools grounds.


Sadly, the link no longer works. :-(

I have removed the now outdated link to the news article. It referenced one of those occasions when a bomb squad is called out due to a 'suspicious container'.

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    Posted: June 22 2007,1:15 pm QUOTE

Quote (PC Medic @ June 19 2007,6:03 pm)
Quote (Digital_Cowboy @ June 17 2007,5:43 pm)
Quote (PC Medic @ Oct. 31 2004,8:31 am)
Common sense goes a long way when placing a cache and a great example of why can be found in this News Article. There was also a similar incident in Modesto, CA a couple days ago with a cache container found by a janitor on an elementary schools grounds.


Sadly, the link no longer works. :-(

I have removed the now outdated link to the news article. It referenced one of those occasions when a bomb squad is called out due to a 'suspicious container'.

PC Medic,

Ok, thanks, do ya know if it's avable on any other server or of other news stories where a cache was blown up by the bomb squad?

And didn't Nickolodem(sp) have an incident where some promtion they were doing caused some concern where the police and/or the bomb squad was called out???


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    Posted: June 23 2007,4:56 pm QUOTE

You might find some recent stories by searching Google News. Check the recent archives of the gpsstash group on Yahoo! Groups. Several stories were recently referenced their.

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