Joined: Sep. 2002
||Posted: July 04 2003,10:31 am
Well, we're not talking BLM. We're talking NY Dept of Environmental Conservation, an entirely different, though similar, agency.
You say according to BLM standards, geocaching is an acceptable use of lands, and that a statement was issued to all the land managers about it.
Well, thats what I'm talking about......How did the BLM find out about caching? How did they decide it was acceptable? So they now have an official policy on it? So do they now have geocaching SPECIFICALLY mentioned as an approved activity in their rules and regulations?
Right now, DEC's stance is, if you carried it in, carry it out.
I think it would be very easy to get an official position of approval out of the DEC if we put up an organized request/presentation.
Sorry for playing the devils advocate, especially since I am usually very anti-establishment. (Govment already has too many #### laws & rules )
But I think this would be an easy thing to get a positive response on, without all the silly restrictions that I've heard other park agencies require.
I'm just figuring if WE present geocaching to the DEC, we'll get a more favorable image and resolution, then if they realise we have caches all over their land later on, and THEY decide what the rules regulations for caching should be, if they even decide to allow it.
Think of it this way:
You own 100 acres of forested land in your backyard, complete with wildlife, and even a beaver pond which basically has its own ecosystem.
Out ofthe blue someone from an organization representing an outdoor activity comes to you asking for access to your land. They present a case that promises responsible use of your land, and will agree to abide by any rules that you feel are necessary. You decide to let them have the access with basic restrictions like no destruction of any structures, no digging, no harming the wildlife, etc,etc.
They are happy, because they have the land access, and you are satisfied, because you get to be the hero by letting other people enjoy your land and it makes you all fuzzy-warm inside (OK, I'm stretching), & you have a known organization to call if there are problems.
On the other hand, what if these people did NOT come to you at all, yet you find they are back there accessing your land, and unknown to you they hide something that is posted all over the internet so everyone in the world knows about it but you, and its inviting more and more people to come access your land, which you never gave permision for. Even if these people are being very responsible in the use of the land itself, would you say they were acting responsibly for not asking permission first?....Especially when there is a nation-wide organization promoting the activity?
What would you do then? would you allow them to continue, or would you be upset and just say no?