Joined: June 2001
||Posted: June 07 2002,9:51 am
|With caches, and virtual caches, someone has gone and visited a spot, posted the coords, and it is up to others to use a GPS to reach that spot, and either find a box, or snap a pic or whatever. The challenge is to find a way to reach that spot. |
With locactionless caches you really don't even a need a GPS. You go find an object which could be right outside your door, and then post your 'find'. The coords are superflous. And then challenge is for other people NOT to visit that spot. They DON'T get credit for visiting an object already posted as a find. So it is actually discouraged to use the posted coords.
With locationless caches, someone has gone and visited a spot and posted its coordinates (in a "find" report), just like the person who has visited a neat location and submitted its coordinates as a virtual cache (in a "hide" submission). Other than the page you use to submit your report, there's no difference. Both players visited a real spot and reported real coordinates. If the visitor to a "locationless" cache would leave a Tupperware box behind, there would be no difference at all even with traditional geocaching. We don't require leaving Tupperware behind to submit a virtual cache, so "locationless" caches are just another type of virtual cache.
There's no reason for a requirement that only one person can log each location. Why would people add such a requirement, either for locationless caches or for virtual caches or for traditional caches? It seems to me that others should be encouraged (not discouraged) from going back to the spot that the first person found. After all, he published its coordinates, didn't he? Why not use them?
It's only because the web site databases invert the "hide" and "find" for so-called "locationless" caches that they appear to be something different. Change the way the Web site and database work and it all falls in place.
For example, let's take that phone booth example. Let's say I visit a phone booth somewhere. Don't let me create a "locationless" cache for phone booths. Instead, make me create a virtual cache for the real phone booth I found. I submit its coordinates as a new cache (not a "find", but a "hide"). I also create a new cache category (micro, normal, large, virtual, and now "phone booth").
Everyone who comes after me can revisit my cache (that is, the phone booth I logged), or they can submit their own cache (that is, their own phone booth that they found). There's even a category for it now, so people can search just for "phone booth" caches. Or, for those who don't care about phone booths, you can filter them out. The scoring system could do this, too, for those who want to see scores with or without phone booth caches counted.
In this way, the whole issue of "locationless" caches goes away. There's no such thing. There are only new categories of real caches (or at least real places).
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