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Posted: Mar. 19 2006,1:32 pm QUOTE

As I'm looking through caches that would be close to me, everything seems to be very old, and many do not contain logs.  I have not seen a log entry close to me that is less than 2 years old?

Am I missing something or not looking at it correctly?

Also, is there any way to automate .gpx downloads?
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    Posted: Mar. 19 2006,4:58 pm QUOTE

jerryc, you don't say where you're from, but your findings could very well be accurate.

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    Posted: Mar. 20 2006,2:17 am QUOTE

I'm in the Kansas City area.  At geocaching.com there are approx 1000 caches listed within a 100 mile radius, and its really pretty rare to see anyting go more than two months and not get some type of log.  There is a pretty active caching community here.

Looking at the cache listings here, there is definatly some overlap.  But what concerns me, is that there are probably a very good sized handful of the caches listed here no longer exist.  The owners of the caches do not seem to be maintaining them.  I've tracked a couple down and they dont exist, and dont appear to have existed for quite a while.  I'm not sure what to think of this, but I'm leaning toward the data here is extremely stale.  This is why I ask, "Am I missing something??"
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    Posted: Mar. 20 2006,4:19 pm QUOTE

Quote (jerryc @ Mar. 20 2006,4:17 am)
I'm in the Kansas City area.  At geocaching.com there are approx 1000 caches listed within a 100 mile radius, and its really pretty rare to see anyting go more than two months and not get some type of log.  There is a pretty active caching community here.

Looking at the cache listings here, there is definatly some overlap.  But what concerns me, is that there are probably a very good sized handful of the caches listed here no longer exist.  The owners of the caches do not seem to be maintaining them.  I've tracked a couple down and they dont exist, and dont appear to have existed for quite a while.  I'm not sure what to think of this, but I'm leaning toward the data here is extremely stale.  This is why I ask, "Am I missing something??"

by chance do you happen to know the cache names or links of the ones you think no longer exist so that we can quickly look into this?

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    Posted: Mar. 20 2006,5:47 pm QUOTE

Quote (jerryc @ Mar. 20 2006,4:17 am)
I'm in the Kansas City area.  At geocaching.com there are approx 1000 caches listed within a 100 mile radius, and its really pretty rare to see anyting go more than two months and not get some type of log.  There is a pretty active caching community here.



While your area may be pretty active with geocaching, not all geocachers use the same sites which is one reason why many owners choose to cross-post their caches to more than one listing service. Same goes for those searching caches, some check listings at only one site and some check all sites. Now when it comes to logging the finds the same general practice takes place, but we have also found that there is a misconception by many that if they logged the find on one site they can not also log it on the other, this if course is not the case.

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Looking at the cache listings here, there is definatly some overlap.  But what concerns me, is that there are probably a very good sized handful of the caches listed here no longer exist.  The owners of the caches do not seem to be maintaining them.


I am assuming what you mean is they are not maintaining the listing, because if the cache truly no longer exists it would be hard to maintain. If on the other hand the physical cache does still exist, we do not have the same requirement as GC.com that the cache owner visit the cache every xx number of times for it to be considered 'maintained'. Most visitors to a cache will see that it is kept in good condition and notify the owner if it is not or appears to have gone missing.

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I've tracked a couple down and they dont exist, and dont appear to have existed for quite a while.


I am not going to say they DO or DO NOT exist as you have not identified which caches you were unable to find. With out this info your suspicions can not be confirmed. I myself have a cache that has taken almost everyone that has searched two or three visits to actually locate it. This same cache also contains roughly 50 entries to the log book, but maybe 6-8 here on the site. This means that many who find a cache do not always take the time to make a log entry on the site and that just because one does not find a cache it is not always lost/missing. My advice ... if you search for a particular cache and can not find it, make the appropriate log entry (this helps owners and other cachers) and maybe even attempt to contact the owner to confirm it has not been removed and they simply forgot to retire the listing or worse yet, they may not have been the one that removed it and do not realize it is gone as no one has been logging any 'could not find' entries on the listing site(s). What one should NOT do is log a 'this cache is missing' on their first attempt without some sort of confirmation.

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I'm not sure what to think of this, but I'm leaning toward the data here is extremely stale.  This is why I ask, "Am I missing something??"


Only thing you may be missing (as I do not see them) is your log entries to this "very good sized handful of the caches" you mention that you could not find and feel no longer exist. Again, these entries (or direct contact) are what help alert the cache owner and Admin that there may be a problem with a cache.

If you wish to Contact Us with information pertaining to those that you feel may be missing, attempts will be made to confirm the  status of those caches.


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