Joined: Dec. 2004
||Posted: Dec. 18 2004,11:42 pm
[quote=PC Medic,Dec. 18 2004,1:21 am][/quote]
First let me not only say welcome to Navicache, but also to Geocaching!
With that said, I would also like to say thanks for the well wishes for our site. As for what seems like a lack of activity, we just have a more laid back bunch here I think. Kind of like a bees nest, quite and going about their business (geocaching), but poke em a couple times with a stick and they get active! I will admit, the other guys do have us beat in the 'Locked Topics' area though
Thanks for the welcome, PC Medic. I do prefer the laid-back atmosphere in these forums, compared to gc.com, where I sometimes detect hubris in some of the threads and posters. I mean, reading some of those posts in that other forum is enough to counteract the endorphins that one produces in hiking to a cache, so what's the point? I just hope that the rate of posts and posters increase in this site. For my part, I plan on supporting this site by creating caches in my area as my schedule permits and posting them in navicache.
Any way, on to your question about logging ...
While I prefer to think of them as guidelines rather than 'rules', your understanding of the basics of the game are correct. Even in this area though there are acceptable variations, but if I had to say that anything is a must in the game/sport (and I think most would agree), I would say it is that you should always log the find.
Cache owners do not (and should not) use their cache as a means to acquire 'neat things'. Instead when placing the cache, what they are doing is challenging you to the hunt. The reward for them (and others) is reading about your experiences in meeting that challenge. How you enjoyed being brought to a new area you would have not otherwise found or maybe how
you enjoyed solving the puzzle to get the final coordinates. Maybe even how you got all the way back to your car only to realize you left your keys back at the cache
Now, whether you choose to sign the physical log book, log it on the listing site(s) or both, in most cases I suppose is entirely up to you, but IMHO a log on the listing site is the more important option. For example I am sure you have by now seen log entries on the site stating 'TNLNSL' which simply means 'Took Nothing, Left Nothing, Signed Log'. May not seem like much, but even a simple on line log entry like this can serve as an indicator to the cache owner (and listing service) that the cache is probably still intact and at the location it should be. With out these log entries the cache owner may find themselves continuously (and needlessly) making trips back to the wilderness to check the status of their caches which would certainly take the enjoyment out of the game.
You make sensible points. While I don't feel like supporting the people running groundspeak/gc.com, I think there are neat cachers in my area who deserve the courtesy of logging a find and information about the state of the caches. So I will probably force myself to log my finds electronically. I just hope that the current system of a handful of people running the most-used geocaching website -- and the direction of geocaching -- changes in the future.