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    Posted: June 19 2007,3:03 pm QUOTE

Quote (TEAM 360 @ Sep. 18 2003,4:38 pm)
Lowracer and Woodster, and PCmedic, you are all right on the mark. I went out and hit some caches today, and I love doing it this way, signing the logbook and not logging the finds online. No one needs to see my numbers, anyhow. I know right where I am at, and don't feel the public pressure to "keep up" or "try to catch up" with anyone else. A huge weight has been lifted from my shoulders by doing it this way.
I really couldn't keep up with the maintenance required on my caches, so that is why I archived them. Sorry to do that to Navicache, it wasn't too fair to them, and I feel badly about it. I really prefer not to have any caches of my own for now. If I put any out there, you will be the first to know.
Some of us are hunters only, I guess.
Not going back into the forums over there. The so-called "intellectuals" have nothing but holier-than-thou attitudes. One of them even tried to take me down with a virus attachment on an email they sent to me yesterday, but I scanned it and wiped it out before anything could happen. Talk about fanatics. They need to get away from the computer screen. Those people probably don't even know what an ammo box looks like.
I created a different account over there, just to go get downloads of cache waypoints, so no one will know when I am online for the whole 2 minutes it will take me to do so.
Sorry to see your forums are down, Woodsters. I checked out the site yesterday. Hey, you should drop Renegade Knight a line, and mention that you have a site. Tell him I sent you.
Maybe I will stick around here for a while, if I feel the need to chat a bit. Hope you all won't mind.

Team360 (hopefully yer still around) I know exactly what yer talking about see prvious post.

Some of their moderators need a leason in how to handle different situations.

One thing that I have to "laugh at" over at gc.com is how according to their "engraved in stone" rules say that "all" caches must be family/child friendly.  I'm sorry, but there are just some areas that people are going to hide caches in that children are either not going to be welcome or not have the ability to go after a certain cache because of not being strong enough, tall enough, or skilled enough, etc. to do so.

And that because of that I've gotten the impression that a person placing a cache in a nudist/clothing optional facility/area would have a hard time getting approved. :-(  Which is sad because it shows that they do not realize that nudist/clothing optional recreaction IS a family friendly activity/lifestyle.


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    Posted: June 19 2007,3:09 pm QUOTE

Quote (barrington @ Sep. 19 2003,2:08 pm)
I would hope that anyone who decides to leave geocaching would do more than just archive their caches and physically abandon them to let them become trash in the environment!  Either retrieval or transfer of ownership to another cacher who would maintain them would seem essential both for the good of the environment and the good of the sport; a rotted out ammo box with the contents spilled down a hillside would not make points with the park ranger types.

A second point:  Only marking your find in the logbook does a real disservice to the cache owner who may depend on the cache report e-mails to evaluate the condition of their caches and know when to physically go out and maintain them, or retrieve them if they're causing a problem.  The original concept of geocaching included posting both the stash coordinates and subsequent finds on the internet; let's stick with it.

Barrington,

The cache hider should not be waiting for notification from this or that web site before going out and checking the condition of the cache(s) that they've hiden.  They should be (at least in my opinion) should make the effort to go out on a regular basis and physically verify that their caches are in good shape and aren't causeing any ill effect to the area that they are in.

To me that seems to be the responsible thing to do/way to act, esp. IF we wish to be able to continue with the hobby/activity.


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    Posted: June 19 2007,7:05 pm QUOTE

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After that I "dropped out" of the hobby for several months, but I am back now, and I am just going to concentrate on finding and logging caches.  And also as some of ya have said the numbers are really only important to me, as it makes me feel good to find another cache.  Right now over there I just found my 17th and 18th caches yesterday.

Regardless of the past issues (and believe me, i can SO sympathize and understand) welcome back to caching!!  We (at least *i* am) are getting a little disgruntled lately with some things going on to the point where i almost want to throw in the towel as well.  

But caching the way you enjoy, and the great people here, that's what matters and makes a difference.  After all it -is- supposed to be fun, and fun is what you make it  :)
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    Posted: June 19 2007,10:11 pm QUOTE

Quote (TeamDotOne @ June 19 2007,9:05 pm)
[quote=Digital_Cowboy,June 19 2007,4:51 pm]After that I "dropped out" of the hobby for several months, but I am back now, and I am just going to concentrate on finding and logging caches.  And also as some of ya have said the numbers are really only important to me, as it makes me feel good to find another cache.  Right now over there I just found my 17th and 18th caches yesterday.

Regardless of the past issues (and believe me, i can SO sympathize and understand) welcome back to caching!!  We (at least *i* am) are getting a little disgruntled lately with some things going on to the point where i almost want to throw in the towel as well.  

Okay, "dumb question time" given that it appears that there are so many people who are unhappy with the way things are there.  Way don't they either try to change things or if TPTB are unwilling to make changes to keep their user base happy.  Then why don't they leave taking their caches with 'em???

One of the attitudes over at gc.com that I've gotta say that I don't like is the importance some put on the numbers.  And how if you don't have xxx finds yer a "newbie."  No how long you've been a member.

I guess that they don't understand that for a lot of us the only thing that "the numbers" mean is that x times out of y, we were right.  And I like the idea of making it an option to make log entries private or public.


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    Posted: June 20 2007,6:14 am QUOTE

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Okay, "dumb question time" given that it appears that there are so many people who are unhappy with the way things are there.  Way don't they either try to change things or if TPTB are unwilling to make changes to keep their user base happy.  Then why don't they leave taking their caches with 'em???

One of the attitudes over at gc.com that I've gotta say that I don't like is the importance some put on the numbers.  And how if you don't have xxx finds yer a "newbie."  No how long you've been a member.

I don't know what the reasoning is why things don't change and why complaints / suggestions are, for the most part, ignored.

As far as leaving, I think once navicache gets a foothold, there will be a good alternative.  In the meantime, though, with not many people realizing this service is here and just how much better it is, there is a lack of listings in areas, and one would have to travel quite a ways to continue caching once the more local ones are logged.

We've noticed the lack of caches listed on Navicache around our area and are trying to populate it as we can.  We're also trying to get the word out about Navicache any chance we get.

Yes, there's a big 'tude regarding 'numbers' ... around our area, caching groups actually celebrate 1K finds with a dedicated event.   We were getting involved in getting to that magical 1K number, but in light of recent happenings, we've come back down to earth and realize that hey, we do this for fun and to spend time together!  If it takes us three years to make 1K, then so be it .. and if anyone doesn't like it, well, that more or less indicates what is important to them :)
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    Posted: June 20 2007,2:34 pm QUOTE

Quote (TeamDotOne @ June 20 2007,8:14 am)
Quote (Digital_Cowboy @ June 20 2007,12:11 am)
Okay, "dumb question time" given that it appears that there are so many people who are unhappy with the way things are there.  Way don't they either try to change things or if TPTB are unwilling to make changes to keep their user base happy.  Then why don't they leave taking their caches with 'em???



I don't know what the reasoning is why things don't change and why complaints / suggestions are, for the most part, ignored.

As far as leaving, I think once navicache gets a foothold, there will be a good alternative.  In the meantime, though, with not many people realizing this service is here and just how much better it is, there is a lack of listings in areas, and one would have to travel quite a ways to continue caching once the more local ones are logged.

We've noticed the lack of caches listed on Navicache around our area and are trying to populate it as we can.  We're also trying to get the word out about Navicache any chance we get.

Yes, there's a big 'tude regarding 'numbers' ... around our area, caching groups actually celebrate 1K finds with a dedicated event.   We were getting involved in getting to that magical 1K number, but in light of recent happenings, we've come back down to earth and realize that hey, we do this for fun and to spend time together!  If it takes us three years to make 1K, then so be it .. and if anyone doesn't like it, well, that more or less indicates what is important to them :)

I guess that TPTB feel that they “own” the whole concept of Geocaching, and that they’re the final word on what is and isn’t allowed in Geocaching.  And that they don’t have to do anything to please their user base.  And that once nc.com and tc.com really take off, they’re going to find their users/members moving to friendlier waters.

I think that probably true of tc.com as well.  As right now there are only 2 caches that are within about 20-miles of my home location.  And neither of ‘em are in my town. :-(  Also sadly they don’t approve/allow for cross posting/listing of caches. :-(  I’ve noticed that too, I think that there’s only like 3 nc.com caches nearby.:-(

If a cacher wants to make a big deal out of it then that’s one thing, but for other’s to make a big deal out of it or to place an importance on a high number count is tacky.

Very well said, it should be about spending time with friends and family as well as making new friends.  And spending time outdoors, and learning about areas that we might not have otherwise gone.  Then it should be about the numbers.  And yer right, if they don’t or can’t get that for some hopefully most of us.  That’s it about the hunt, friendship, and family then it is about the numbers.


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