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Posted: May 11 2008,1:29 pm QUOTE

I just joined today and after looking at several caches listed in the Colorado Springs area it seems they are missing as they haven't been found in years or not at all. With gas over $3.50 a gallon I'd like to be sure there is something to find after I drive and hike to the cache location. Is there any way that you insure that caches are removed from your site when the owners become inactive? Do you monitor the logs to remove caches that haven't been found by cachers for a year, two years, ...
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    Posted: May 11 2008,5:15 pm QUOTE

many times caches are cross-listed to multiple sites and finders will log on one site and not another. Also, I have a cache that when recently visited for maintenance had three 5 entries in the log book, but has not been logged here on the site for four of them.

If you want you can always contact the cache owner to see if it is still an active cache. If not (active) they should set the listing status to 'Retired'


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Posted: May 11 2008,7:41 pm QUOTE

Ok, the Geode Cache at N 38° 54.776'   W 104° 50.566' has been archived at GC.com as the owner tried to turn it into a virtual cache which is not allowed. How does it get changed to a virtual cache on this site so cachers aren't looking for a physical cache that isn't there?
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    Posted: May 12 2008,2:11 pm QUOTE

Quote (Explorer99 @ May 11 2008,9:41 pm)
Ok, the Geode Cache at N 38° 54.776'   W 104° 50.566' has been archived at GC.com as the owner tried to turn it into a virtual cache which is not allowed. How does it get changed to a virtual cache on this site so cachers aren't looking for a physical cache that isn't there?

I have sent a message to the cache owner asking that they verify cache is active and make needed changes to listing. If they do not respond in alloted time period I will archive the listing.

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    Posted: July 01 2008,9:27 pm QUOTE

I don't check on my caches until I know there is a problem.  The issue is the opposite.  At 4.05 a gallon it's not worth checking on a cache just for kicks unless I'm in the area for other reasons.

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    Posted: July 05 2008,10:44 pm QUOTE

Renegade Knight, so you're still around!

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    Posted: July 09 2008,11:07 pm QUOTE

on numerous caches I've experienced multiple "whinners" who say the cache
is not there and then MTF or misD ask me to either check it or archive it.
well like you folks say; at $4 a pop I archive 'em. Then some industious
cacher comes along and says hey I found it seems fine etc etc and I ask
the official to please reactivate and they say no not until I go out there and
police the area for scattered geo debree spruce things up some.
Hey I'm just one guy!!!
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    Posted: Oct. 14 2008,9:52 pm QUOTE

Quote (grampapa @ July 10 2008,1:07 am)
on numerous caches I've experienced multiple "whinners" who say the cache
is not there and then MTF or misD ask me to either check it or archive it.
well like you folks say; at $4 a pop I archive 'em. Then some industious
cacher comes along and says hey I found it seems fine etc etc and I ask
the official to please reactivate and they say no not until I go out there and
police the area for scattered geo debree spruce things up some.
Hey I'm just one guy!!!

As long as it is being found by other members I would think simply contacting that member that found it to ask if the coordiantes to it were still accurate so you know it was not moved, as well as what condition it was in should be good enough.
I have hidden many myself that would be quite a drive to get to unless i was already out that way. I don't think one could be expected to drive to each cache to always watch over it weekly.


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    Posted: April 08 2009,1:24 pm QUOTE

I've confirmed that Stilly Stuff has been gone since January 2005.  I posted a note on the cache page, but since there is no "Should Be Archived" log option, what is the best way to ensure that it is archived?  Posting here?

Done a check on most of the first page of caches near 20794 and have posted notes to the ones that seem to be gone.  I didn't check Mother Wolf's since I know her and can check with her easily.


Edited by DudleyGrunt on April 08 2009,2:28 pm

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    Posted: April 21 2009,9:32 am QUOTE

Still wondering...

Also, since I have published an event, I was now wondering how to archive my own cache once it's over.  I see no option for it.  Mother Wolf also sent me a note about archiving and can't find the option.

Thanks.


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    Posted: April 21 2009,2:18 pm QUOTE

You simply edit the cache listing and set the 'retired' status to YES.

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    Posted: April 22 2009,11:26 am QUOTE

Thanks.  MW and I do seem to be having some issues with finding stuff.

As far as other people's caches, I've written the the cache owners I could about the local "forgotten" caches (zip=20794) that need to be archived and posted notes of warning for other cachers that they probably don't want to go looking for them.

I'll give it a little time, but I suspect that most won't make it over here to archive them since they've seen to have dropped of NC.  If they're still active after another week or two, I'll get back with you to request they be archived.


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    Posted: April 23 2009,6:49 pm QUOTE

Quote (DudleyGrunt @ April 22 2009,1:26 pm)
Thanks.  MW and I do seem to be having some issues with finding stuff.

As far as other people's caches, I've written the the cache owners I could about the local "forgotten" caches (zip=20794) that need to be archived and posted notes of warning for other cachers that they probably don't want to go looking for them.

I'll give it a little time, but I suspect that most won't make it over here to archive them since they've seen to have dropped of NC.  If they're still active after another week or two, I'll get back with you to request they be archived.

Good job. One of the biggest complaints you hear about Navicache over at Frogland, the dual-listed caches that are long gone, but never get retired over here. I took on this task myself locally a couple of years ago, and PCMedic was very helpful. This inspired me to take another look locally, and I found just a couple, one of which I personally checked on (having been a previous finder) and know was missing for sure. I'll be in touch.

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    Posted: April 30 2009,8:35 am QUOTE

I posted notes on the following cache pages and contacted the owners.  So far, there has been no action on these and I believe they should be archived.

The Real Innerloop Stump
Joppatowne Gem
You Are The GPS!

I had taken the same steps with others and they have been archived by the owners.

PC Medic, can you archive these caches?

Thanks,
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    Posted: May 13 2009,11:03 am QUOTE

Another for archiving...

Graveyard Micro (no link to e-mail user).


Edited by DudleyGrunt on May 13 2009,11:05 am

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    Posted: June 12 2009,1:17 pm QUOTE

Quote (DudleyGrunt @ May 13 2009,1:03 pm)
I posted notes on the following cache pages and contacted the owners.  So far, there has been no action on these and I believe they should be archived.

The Real Innerloop Stump
Joppatowne Gem
You Are The GPS!

I had taken the same steps with others and they have been archived by the owners.

PC Medic, can you archive these caches?

Thanks,
Dave

Another for archiving...

Graveyard Micro (no link to e-mail user).


I have been interested in trying to get long archived (on GC) "cross listed" caches archived here, so folks don't go looking for them.  This could be a lot of work, but if other members would work on their areas and they'd actually get archived, I think that would be a big improvement to the site.

The large percentage of these orphaned cahces (at least in my area) is one of the biggest reasons I am VERY selective on searching for NC caches and am more reluctant to publish caches here - because I fear others will have the same hesitation.

I'm not sure I want to continue this effort since there doesn't seem to be any response to my requests.  Is there some other way I should be going about this?


Edited by DudleyGrunt on June 12 2009,1:21 pm

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    Posted: June 13 2009,7:19 am QUOTE

Quote (DudleyGrunt @ June 12 2009,3:17 pm)
I'm not sure I want to continue this effort since there doesn't seem to be any response to my requests.  Is there some other way I should be going about this?

This may be a result of not using the instructions in my first post HERE .

This is always the method that should be used over the forums for this type of assistance.


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    Posted: June 13 2009,8:14 pm QUOTE

Well, your post from 5/18/08 does make it seem as if this thread is also an option.  And since I hadn't seen a reply from you in the last six weeks, I just kept trying, I suppose.

I've now sent the info through the proper channels.  

I'm not so much looking for assistance, but trying to provide some by trying to make this site more appealing by getting rid of the dead wood of orphaned caches.  Once these are archived, I'll likely send you the next batch, if you are interested.

Dave


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    Posted: June 16 2009,8:31 pm QUOTE

DudleyGrunt, if it's any consolation, I consider that finding ways to get rid of abandoned and missing caches is an under-appreciated aspect of this game. I commend you on your efforts.

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    Posted: June 18 2009,2:06 pm QUOTE

Thanks, Scout.

Can I assume you are involved in scouting?  I'm an ASM for my son's troop and was his Den Leader through Cub Scouts.


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    Posted: Nov. 22 2009,5:36 pm QUOTE

Might I suggest something.  For those of you who have searched out a Geocache and have confirmed that it is missing and no longer maintained by the original poster. Do what those of our military do when caching in enemy territory like Afghanistan and Pakistan. I have viewed these caches and it it customary to point out. "Only the Afghans are here forever, this cache will be maintained by you who follow after". If a cache is worthy of the hunt, and is no longer maintained, then you who follow after ensure it is there for the next seeker.
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    Posted: Nov. 22 2009,7:36 pm QUOTE

I would consider it, if I could actually adopt it.  Otherwise, I might consider placing a new cache under my own name nearby.

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