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    Posted: April 10 2008,3:07 pm QUOTE

Just a quick question about types of caches and associated waypoints.  

First, are Earthcaches only listed a virts or did I miss the category, and does it get recognized by earthcache.org?  That is if it's only listed here of course.

Second, for multis; are additional stages entered anywhere?  That is only important to me if I want to lead someone to a parking area or a trailhead prior to the first waypoint, where I may not be able to place any marker or container for the first stage.


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    Posted: April 10 2008,4:11 pm QUOTE

We provide the option to list the more common and original 'Virtual' caches (also referred to as 'Virts' by some). Earthcache is a trademarked name for a more specific type of cache listed with  Earthcache.org. Of course many virtuals placed before and after their existence meet the requirements for their site, they just were never called that. And no you did not mis a category, you would simply list them here as a 'Virtual' . Whether it is recognized by them or not you would need to ask over there, but I doubt it.

Regarding multis; there is no single answer as there are different types of multi-part caches. it is entirely up to you how you list it, Using your example I have seen others use the comments field to indicate that 'parking is available at the following coordinates...'  (one of the reasons we actually provide that field) or some will list the parking areas coordinates and then in the description direct them to the coordinates of the first stage. It is entirely personal preference.


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    Posted: April 10 2008,6:53 pm QUOTE

Earthcaches are owned by geocaching.com so you'd have to look to those guys to post them.

Having said that, it would be nice to have something similar.  Perhaps a cache type that teaches an earth lesson, AND in which Leave no Trace is practiced in the hide/find.  A true Earth-Friendly cache type.

I'd personally be REALLY interested in that cache type.  So many cache hiding spots are completely destroyed by seekers.

How much work is it to update the Navicache system with a new cache type.  PM is fine.


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    Posted: April 10 2008,7:40 pm QUOTE

Quote (Rogheff @ April 09 2008,10:53 pm)
Earthcaches are owned by geocaching.com so you'd have to look to those guys to post them.

Having said that, it would be nice to have something similar.  Perhaps a cache type that teaches an earth lesson, AND in which Leave no Trace is practiced in the hide/find.  A true Earth-Friendly cache type.

I'd personally be REALLY interested in that cache type.  So many cache hiding spots are completely destroyed by seekers.

How much work is it to update the Navicache system with a new cache type.  PM is fine.

I think that may be in error.  The Geological Society of America actually approves all Earthcaches prior to them getting listed at GC.  I don't know the relationship there (it may be financial or something) but they may be persuaded to recognize this sites listings too.  After all this site never gave up on the virts :D like GC did.  Maybe an official request is in order.

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    Posted: April 11 2008,2:49 pm QUOTE

OK,

I made a request to list one on Navicach.com.  We'll see what happens.


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    Posted: April 11 2008,8:08 pm QUOTE

Quote (Rogheff @ April 11 2008,3:49 pm)
OK,

I made a request to list one on Navicach.com.  We'll see what happens.

Keep us posted, this could prove interesting.

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    Posted: April 15 2008,5:22 am QUOTE

Here's the reply:

Roger,
I'm afraid EarthCaches can only be listed via geocaching.com per agreements between the Geological Society of America and Groundspeak.

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    Posted: April 15 2008,11:29 am QUOTE

Quote (Rogheff @ April 15 2008,6:22 am)
Here's the reply:

Roger,
I'm afraid EarthCaches can only be listed via geocaching.com per agreements between the Geological Society of America and Groundspeak.

Anny
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I was afraid of that, it seems that "Earthcache" has been tied in to GC by agreement.  Oh well, it doesn't stop us from making virtuals that meet the same guidelines over here.  I wonder if there is an opportunity to get an agreement done for say a "Naturecache"?? :p


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    Posted: April 15 2008,2:24 pm QUOTE

A 'Virtual' is a cache in which there is no actual container (or at least no trade items) , but takes the finder to a unique or interesting geological or historical point of interest. So it would pretty much already cover what the other guys developed a whole new category for. Must have been more profitable that way   :grinnin

By the way I don't want to get off topic in this threat, but would like to quickly touch on a comment Rogheff made.  It is our (Navicache.com's) opinion that ALL caches should practice the Leave no Trace concept as much as physically possible during both the hide and find.


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    Posted: April 17 2008,5:07 am QUOTE

As a Scout Leader who practies Leave No Trace regularly, the damage that cachers can do while hunting caches really bugs me.  That's why my Navicache to Eagle series is all virtuals.  Nothign to destroy.

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    Posted: April 29 2008,9:32 am QUOTE

I am trying to post a multi-cache discription for a 22 mile long rail/trail containing 18 cache sites and I ran out of space on the form - what should I do to list the coords for the remaining waypoints?  A look at www.highlandstrail.org/geocaching.htm will describe the project more completely

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    Posted: April 29 2008,10:58 am QUOTE

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I am trying to post a multi-cache discription for a 22 mile long rail/trail containing 18 cache sites and I ran out of space on the form - what should I do to list the coords for the remaining waypoints?  A look at www.highlandstrail.org/geocaching.htm will describe the project more completely

Gordon Blackley, Allegheny Highlands Trail, Elkins, West Virginia

Looks like it would be better to do these individually.  A multi usually leads you to a starting point and the container there will lead to the next etc.  If you make this a multi, then it will lead everyone from the same starting point making the FTF very difficult to obtain for more than a few people.  If you publish these all at the same time and allow the caching to start at the same time, many people can go for each of the 18 caches.  Since these are puzzle caches it may make it a more distributed affair since people will solve these at different rates, but I still think it should be individually listed.

How is it listed at GC?


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    Posted: April 29 2008,1:35 pm QUOTE

I would have to agree with Omega here. What you are trying to do is not a 'Multi' by standard definition, but instead a series of related caches. I would list them individually ( Allegheny Highlands Trail #1, Allegheny Highlands Trail #2, etc )

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