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Joined: Dec. 2001
||Posted: June 16 2006,7:23 pm
|Quote (jerryc @ June 16 2006,7:27 pm)|
|Thats what I'm asking for. When logging a (missing) cache, there should be some type of log entry besides found it and note. Unless notes are followed up on??|
A log entry with mention that 'this cache may be missing' should be red flag enough for not only the cache owner (as they receive an email report of any log entry made to a cache), but also a warning to other geocachers that the cache may be missing should they be planning on searching for it. And YES, cache owners should always follow-up and then either post a 'note' that the cache is still available or retire the listing.
There should be some type of Missing log entry or something that will raise the flag so that owners can check, and if owners dont check then the site should probably remove the listing.
I can look through many cache logs with several 'Did Not Find' logs in a row and then a 'Found It'. So a 'Missing' log type as I mentioned before could be more harm than good. I have personally experienced numerous cases where a cache that was still in place would have log entries such as 'missing do not search for this cache' simply because that individual was unable to find it.
Are there cases where caches are in fact missing, unfortunately yes and that is why owners should always follow up on such log entries. If they do not and other local cachers truly feel the cache is missing, then they should contact the Admins for follow up. If we do not receive a response from the cache owner in a reasonable period of time indicating the cache has been confirmed to be in place, then we will retire the listing.
In my area (Kansas City) there seem to be a lot of caches with NO log entries.
Remember, no log entry on the site is not always indicative of a missing cache. Take my Redwing Treasure cache for example. No log entries on the cache page since 02/05, yet when I went to check on it and collect the container last month, it was intact with half a dozen log entries in the logbook since then. Also, note the very first log entry on that same cache.
References can be found in other places that indicate clearly that these caches are indeed missing.
Then shame on the cache owners for not maintining their listings.
There is one called "Daphne" (waypoint N0014A). The tree that is refered to has been missing since 2002, making this cache pretty much impossible to find.
This cache owner allows for email contact, was any attempt made to contact them? Was any concern forwarded to the Admins via the Contatc Us form?
If either "note" log entries were reviewed or if there were a seperate type of log that would force a review I think that would help clear this situation.
If you knew the number of logs made daily and how many 'false alarms' this would possibly result in, you may change your mind on this method
Also, as a side note, when someone logs a cache, does the owner of the cache get an automatic email? If so, then there are at least three caches I've posted notes on that are being ignored.
Yes they do and if they have been ignored and you have concerns about a particular cache please use the contact form to let us know.