Forum: Misc. GPS Equipment Information
Topic: Mapping Software
started by: Harrkev

Posted by Harrkev on Mar. 27 2002,9:40 am
Hi.

I would like to buy some new mapping software.  Here is what I would like.

1) Enter a start and end point
2) Program calculates route
3) Program downloads every turn into my GPS as a route.

Does this exist???  From what I understand, Delorme Street Atlas has great routing and interfaces well to a GPS, but I do not know if it can generate a GPS route using only start and end points.

My current procedure is to use Microsoft Streets to calculate the route, and then hand-enter each turn into MapSend, and then finally play connect-the-dots to make a route.  This is a pain.

Thanks.


Posted by Gimpy on Mar. 27 2002,11:09 am
Hi Harrkev.Yup. I have Street Atlas 8.0 & Street Atlas Deluxe & both do a pretty good job of autorouting. All you need is starting point & finish point, then tell it if you want quickest,shortest etc.. Easy to add vias along the route too. In Deluxe,if you want to stop & eat along the way, it'll even give you a list of restaurants,hotels,etc. along the route. Really does a good job. I used it quite a bit until I got the V & Metroguide & City Select. :D
Posted by Harrkev on Mar. 27 2002,1:50 pm
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Hi Harrkev.Yup. I have Street Atlas 8.0 & Street Atlas Deluxe & both do a pretty good job of autorouting. All you need is starting point & finish point, then tell it if you want quickest,shortest etc.. Easy to add vias along the route too.

It will even automatically place waypoints where turns are and create a route to download to the GPS?


Posted by Gimpy on Mar. 28 2002,2:27 am
Not sure if it actually places waypoints at turns, but it does create the turns in the route & when I used it with my MAP76, the unit beeps when coming up on a turn & shows what direction your turn will take. Deluxe is very nice, in that if you're in an area of recent development, where most mapping stuff is outdated, you have the option of creating roads,trails on your map and saving them to the software file. That way, whenever your going back to that area, you pull up that map, and all the latest features are there. Really a lot of options that are too many to explain here. You can print out the users manual from DeLormes site to get an idea. I printed it out & it's 139 pages (8 1/2 X 11 standard printer paper). You  even have the option of telling it what kind of gas mileage you get in your vehicle, & it will automatically plug in a stop at a gas station (pick Mobil,Exon,Sunoco etc) about the time you'll need some gas. If you're taking a long trip, & you just want to travel,say,200 miles the first day, tell it your favorite hotel chain, & it plugs in your favorite hotel closest to the 200 mile point. And because I've purchased a lot of DeLorme stuff, they e-maied me an offer & gave it to me for  $39.95. Loads routes & waypoints to/from my Garmins no problem. But as always, can't load maps to the GPS.
Posted by apersson850 on Mar. 28 2002,7:47 am
I use MapSource, with the new MetroGuide Europe, to do exactly this.

It creates routes, that can be downloaded to my eTrex Vista, on a turn-by-turn basis.

The only problem is that complex routes easily exceed the 50 leg limit for routes in a Vista.

Anders
Posted by Gimpy on Mar. 28 2002,10:17 am
Welcome, Anders. :D  Thats about all I use as well. (US version,that is)I've got Mapsource R&R,Topo,Metroguide & CitySelect. Metroguide is my favorite as it has better detail in rural areas than CS. But before CS was even available & I had no idea how good Metro was,Street Atlas Deluxe was a real viable alternative. And I don't know about you, but I sure paid a bit more than $39.95 for Metroguide or CitySelect.
Posted by Harrkev on Mar. 29 2002,12:32 pm
Hi Anders.  Good to see you here....

I do not thing that MetroGuide will work too well with my Meridian.  Oh well.
Posted by Gimpy on April 24 2002,1:51 am
Anybody played around with DeLorme Topo USA 4.0 yet? Just ordered it & wondering if it's as good as it appears. 7 cd set, so it should have quite a bit of content. Probably should have posted this before ordering it to get some feedback first. ???
Posted by Hinge Thunder on April 30 2002,9:21 am
Quote (Harrkev @ Mar. 27 2002,3:50 pm)
It will even automatically place waypoints where turns are and create a route to download to the GPS?

It might depend on what GPS you have. I downloaded a route from street atlas into my etrex basic, and ended up with 80 some waypoints, one for every turn. They were all nonsensical names. It was not usable at all. I deleted all of the route stuff, and download just the waypoints  (18 bookstores in vegas), and used it to go from one to the next, to the next. That wasn't too bad.

I have used street atlas, and downloaded routes into my Palm IIIc, with Solus 2.0, and an Earthmate GPS (though I think even my etrex basic got better sat locks), and it was very handy for routing me around. Though with seperate components, and wires between, it is not as friendly as a handheld GPS.
Posted by Alan2 on April 30 2002,5:40 pm
I have a Vista with Mapsource Streets and Recreation and Topo.  Which would you recommend to creating routes on my computer and then downloading into the Vista:  Metroguide, Street Atlas 8, other?

Tks

Alan
Posted by Gimpy on May 01 2002,2:55 am
Tough call, Alan. I prefer the Metroguide, but that's because the autorouting in the V works fantastic with Metroguide. If you get off course, the unit recalculates & gets you back on track. Before I had the V & Metroguide/City Select, I did do some autorouting with Street Atlas & loaded into my MAP76, & worked out well. And the cost difference between the 2 programs is significant. I just ran a couple of sample routes with each, & the routes were identical. I think the Metroguide has more options, but for loading into a non-autorouting gps, I don't think the added cost of Metroguide is warranted if you're just looking for routes. But if you were to upgrade down the road to an autorouting gps, the Metroguide is the only way to go. The other thing is that if you did choose to go with Metro, you could load the maps into the Vista, so the routes would be accurate for sure. There's always the chance that if you load a Street Atlas route into the Vista, which has Mapsourse maps, some roads might be included in one of the mapsets that are not in the other. I hope this makes some sense. It's almost 5:00 am & I'm starting to confuse myself, so I'll stop now. :grinnin
Posted by Gimpy on May 01 2002,3:17 am
On another note, Mapsource 4.07 update just went from beta to official update. < http://www.garmin.com/support/download.html >
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