Forum: Questions And Answers About Geocaching
Topic: Ammo cans?
started by: deforest
Posted by deforest on July 04 2001,11:45 amQuinn had posted a place to get ammo cans for caching. Does anyone have that info handy? I also see a new mil-surplus place opened up on Rt 31 just east of Brockport. Anyone check it out for cache materials, other stuff yet?
Posted by Gimpy on July 04 2001,11:56 amI order them right from home at www.cheaperthandirt.com. Quinn has a link to them on Navicache links page. The 50 cal. cans usually average about Ŭ.00 /pc. & of the 3 shipments I've gotten from them, I've not gotten a bad one yet. Shipping is VERY reasonable. 6 cans & Ű.00 shipping from Texas via UPS for a total of about ะ.00. I don't think you can get 6 50 cal. ammo cans for ะ.00 around here. And you don't have to take the time to drive around to see who has any in stock.
Posted by deforest on July 05 2001,5:57 pmCheaper than Dirt looks like my kind of place. Might just have to order a few of those ammo cans full of ammo...
Posted by dgridley on July 05 2001,7:03 pmOf course, even cheaper are the durable plastic hobby totes made by companies like Sterilite.. most can be found and purchased at places like Odds 'N Ends for less than Ŭ.00 each for the larger sizes. They are clear so the contents can be viewed (no hidden bombs here!), have a snap shut lid and a handle.
Posted by Gimpy on July 06 2001,1:58 amI'd like to see how well the plastic snap shut lid works when it's 10 degrees outside. Ammo cans are indestructable & watertight. I've got a cloth carry-all type bag with handles that 50 cal. ammo box fits nicely into for carrying the cache to its spot. If in an area with people around, common sense should tell you not to be walking around with an ammo box. And if anybody other than a cacher can see the box in it's cache location, I haven't done a very good job of placing it.Therefore, not too worried about anybody thinking it's a bomb.Plastic in the winter-time doesn't cut it for one of my caches.
Posted by dgridley on July 15 2001,5:20 pmWell, I think I've solved the problem of potential leaks by using Saran Quick Covers on the plastic cache boxes.. works for me! Low cost alternatives still being sought....
Posted by Iron Chef on July 15 2001,11:49 pmI've been thinking of buying some .50 calibur cans from Cheaper than Dirt, but wanted to know (from the people with experience dealing with them) if the come in decently good condition. I've checked local surplus stores and found that the cans that they have are in horrible shape. Any thoughts?
Posted by Gimpy on July 16 2001,10:02 amIron Chef--I've received 15 50 cal. ammo cans from them & didn't get a bad one out of the bunch.They were all as good as, if not better, than any I have purchased around here. And at an average of about ū.00 less per can. Totally pleased.
Posted by Iron Chef on July 16 2001,7:33 pmFantastic. Looks like I need to get an order put together then. :~)
Posted by Quinn on Aug. 12 2001,5:47 amGimpy... I checked out cheaperthandirt.com for those cans, I even remember them being listed, but now either they are sold out or the link is gone. Do you know if they still carry them?
Posted by Gimpy on Aug. 12 2001,11:04 amHi Quinn. Yup, they're still there for ū.99/pc. for 50 cal. I haven't ordered any in abot 8 wks. so don't know if they're out but from the cheaperthandirt home page, click on military surplus up top and they're pictured right on the page you get directed to. I should order more too. I just put a cache out this morning that I'm going to post here now & I'm taking 2 up to the mts. so I've only got 1 left. I hit geodog cache this morning & Waterdog didn't spray any paint on the 30 cal. can & I noticed it's starting to show some rust. I'll let him know when I log the find. Good Luck with the cans.:).--Gimpy-
Posted by Quinn on Aug. 12 2001,5:52 pmGimpy...you are correct. They do still have them, here is the link right to the page within cheaper than dirts website. thanks again for the Info. I will place an order there soon!
< Ammo Cans >
Posted by barrington on Aug. 12 2001,8:47 pmThis is in reply to deforest's July 4 post: The new surplus place near Brockport, NY has ammo cans, good ones from Ft. Drum, but a little rich on price. 30 cal five bucks each, two for nine bucks, and 50 cal eight bucks, two for fifteen. They're open weekends.
Posted by Quinn on Aug. 12 2001,8:55 pmwow...that is steep in price. There is a surplus store at the corner of Stone road and dewey ave here in the town of greece that has very nice condition .50cal cans for around 5.50 each. I am coming to realize that this is even a bit pricey. The thing about buying from army auctions is you sometimes have to do so in bulk. Thus bringing home a truck with 5000 cans would almost certainly have your wife packing your bags. I am still looking for a better means for getting the cans. If I can get cheaperthandirt.com to drop the price on the cans and shipping for a large quantity, I might be willing to order a lot load and put them in my garage for you guys when you want them. Let me make some calls and see what can be done. But I guess for those quick needs and hands on quality, paying the 8.00 or so isn't so bad
Posted by Road Kill on Aug. 19 2001,12:24 amWWW.cabelas.com has 4 cans for ร.79 plus Ŭ.95 S&H. Do the math and you have Ů.18 a can. Not the best price but 6 days or less and they're on the doorstep.
The "Cheaper than dirt" site does have the best prices. For 5 cans at ร.95 plus ů.97 S&H, Do the math again and you have ŭ.58 a can
(Edited by Road Kill at 12:33 pm on Aug. 19, 2001)
Posted by Road Kill on Sep. 29 2001,11:05 pmMan! I got to brag about my big can! To anyone eager to twist those words - I'm talking ammo can. For those in the know it's a 800 CRTG 5.56mm Blank M200. For those not in the know it's just like the popular 50 cal. ammo can except it measures 12" X 6.8" X 8.6' deep. It holdes a full size 8.5" X 11" notebook without a curl. "Where did I get it?" you ask. Sir Plus Supply Union Hill, NY 14563 Phone # (716) 266-6808 They were at the DEC Sport show in East Avon/Lima and they specialize in ammo cans. Standard 50 Cal. cans Ŭ the big can mentioned above (a little steep) at บ. They do carry larger cans at various prices. But then how do you hide a 10 gallon box? I do have a business card with a web address: < http://members.aol.com/keinfire/sirplus.html >
Street Address is: 2395 Titus Ave. Rochester, NY 14622
Contact is: Steve
Tell them Road Kill sent you. That won't get you any discount but it sounds better than "The guy with the big can".
(Edited by Road Kill at 9:21 pm on Sep. 30, 2001)
Posted by Quinn on Oct. 11 2001,9:04 pmI have dealt with this guy before. He has some pretty nice quality ammo cans and good prices. I bought about 40 of the .30cal cans about 9 months ago and still have plenty. I guess I should have stepped up to the .50cals now that I think of it. But anyways, with all that is happening in the world today, please be sure to paint and mark well all of the Geocaches you place.
Posted by Guest on Oct. 13 2001,2:36 pmJust saw in the Where's George threads where a Bomb Squad in Az supposedly recently "detonated" a cache due to onlookers concerns it contained a bomb.
I know I actually had a cacher who was searching for one of mine (Redwings Treasure) and parked in a residential area no where near the cache and entered the park it was in from the back side.
I'd like to point out that this one happened prior to the 9/11/01 attacks. Some people just panic easily and it will only get worse now.
Again, with everyones hightened "Panic" level due to current events, Please be sure to mark the outside of this type of container very plain and visible.
Posted by dgridley on Oct. 13 2001,9:10 pmI'm not surprised to hear about that incident at all.. especially now with deer season and the terrorist attacks, everybody should be extra vigilant, cacher and cachee alike.
Posted by Road Kill on Oct. 14 2001,8:24 amI know this topic is serious and people do have reason to be vigilant. I honestly wouldn't want it any other way. But I hope no one takes offense or thinks it improper if Road Kill poses this question: "If they,re mistaking GPS's for guns, would a fox hat look like a turbin?
Posted by Quinn on Oct. 14 2001,10:57 amWell...to be honest with you Roadkill, I had already contacted the F.B.I. about you and that darn hat weeks ago. And if I were you, I wouldn't head into any airports wearing that thing.
Posted by Gimpy on Oct. 14 2001,11:19 amHey,RoadKill. did you lose your hat? The Mrs. & I were driving back home on 390 from an afternoon of caching at Letchworth, & we saw one just like it along the side of the road. hehe.
Posted by Quinn on Oct. 14 2001,1:56 pmLOL Quote:
Quote: from Gimpy on 1:19 pm on Oct. 14, 2001
Hey,RoadKill. did you lose your hat? The Mrs. & I were driving back home on 390 from an afternoon of caching at Letchworth, & we saw one just like it along the side of the road. hehe.
Posted by FLMike on Dec. 07 2001,5:11 amGun shows usually have tons of ammo boxes for sale.
Posted by Quinn on Dec. 07 2001,5:49 amQuote from FLMike, posted on Dec. 07 2001,07:11 am
Gun shows usually have tons of ammo boxes for sale.
I had thought about that but a bit too late. I am not sure if there will be any in my area this late in the year and may have to wait until spring. I have still been getting mine from the army surplus store but they are a bit pricey. Gimpy has been getting his via mail order I think with cheaperthandirt.com
But I will have to remember the shows come warmer weather.
Posted by Road Kill on Dec. 07 2001,10:36 amI get mine at 4.00 for a standard 50 cal. can.
Sir Plus Supply Union Hill, NY 14563 Street Address is: 2395 Titus Ave. Rochester, NY 14622.
web address: < http://members.aol.com/keinfire/sirplus.html >
Phone # (716) 266-6808 Contact name is: Steve
Posted by mikechim on Dec. 14 2001,2:07 amI was just wondering, how long does it usually take before orders arrive from cheaper than dirt? I need the boxes by next friday (the 21st)
Posted by Gimpy on Dec. 14 2001,9:03 amMight be tough,mikechim. Of the six orders I've placed there, five made it in less than a week. But being this close to Christmas, UPS might be running a little behind.
Posted by PC Medic on Dec. 14 2001,4:55 pm
Not sure, but it would make for one hell of an alibi !!
Posted by mikechim on Dec. 15 2001,12:38 am
Hmmm... yeah I kind of figured it would be close, to be honest I didn't even consider the increase in time because of .
Guess it's the surplus store!
Posted by GPSFOOL on Mar. 02 2002,12:11 amLet me tell you... I've gotta a big can... Currently on a diet though, it's getting smaller. Perhaps speedos' by summer?!?
Posted by Quinn on Mar. 03 2002,8:08 pm
While doing a cache placed in webster along a water way, I noticed a pair of silky little thingy's in the cache container...are these your speedo's ?
Posted by Quinn on Mar. 10 2002,10:28 amI was thinking it would be a neat idea to see if I could have containers made up that would be water proof but at the same time friendly cost wise...but most important is that I would like to see it shped like a treasure chest. am gonna try to contact some places to see if this can be done. Until then I still think the Ammo can is the way to go!
Posted by YardBoy on Mar. 10 2002,11:14 amAny designed box might come with a shackle & hasp on it. Those caches where you have to come up with some numbers for a combo lock are "tight", man (60s talk, tho much of that time is blank ).
Posted by Rob on Mar. 10 2002,5:59 pmNot sure if many people from the San Diego area visit here but you can get great 50 cal ammo boxes from Stars and Stripes Surplus in El Cajon. And I have yet to find anything that works better than the ammo boxes. They do get a little heavy though when you’re hauling one around on a backpacking trip. My wife is cutting off the handles to her tooth brush to lower weight and I’m lugging 10 lbs of steel filled with Yo-Yos.
Posted by mikechim on Mar. 10 2002,9:37 pm
Posted by Quinn on Mar. 17 2002,7:50 amAnother neat idea that I saw while out caching is a large piece of PVC pie with threaded ends. This sounded like and also looked cool, but the only downside was that there was one log where a person couldn't get the cap off and had to return when another option was used.
Posted by Rob on Mar. 19 2002,3:56 pmI may have to go with my first Tupperware cache. (Catherine says be sure to burp it first. Huh?) I’m planning on leaving it in an outlaying area of a college campus and all the paranoia about suspicious looking containers has made me concerned. I just want this one to look as innocent and benign as possible. I’ll probably have to paste happy face stickers on it.
Posted by Firemedic on Mar. 25 2002,7:02 pmI get one free every time I order 400 rounds of .30-06 for my M-1 Garand. What a deal!
Posted by Quinn on April 06 2002,11:25 amI just went out and checked on a few caches that belonged to me as well as my brother. His cache was a tupperware type container that has been out for about a year now. It was filled right to the top with water due to a flimsy lid set-up. I replaced that cache with an ammo can as I have yet to see one get any type of water in it at all. Goes to show you that you need to pick your containers wisely.
Posted by Road Kill on June 16 2002,7:39 pmGee. It's time to get more.
Posted by HighVoltage on July 07 2002,10:45 pmcheck out these cool auctions on Ebay for ready made geocaches:
< http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1842330943 >
< http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1842333831 >
Posted by Firemedic on July 08 2002,3:36 amI guess you can't fault someone for trying to make a living. No bids yet.
Posted by Quinn on July 08 2002,5:28 amLOL...actually it is not a "Official Geocache" as there is no such thing. Not very creative either if they all look the same, who wants to go looking for the cache if they already know what to expect right around the corner?
I would rather find a container that someone took the time to make custom to reflect their own creativeness.
And Geocaching is NOT just a one site sport as we all know, yet the caches listed would have you believe that with a single site address on it. Back to the drawing board!
Oh!...id you see the auctioners location? "Seatle Area"...the home town of you know who!
Posted by Gimpy on July 08 2002,6:13 amI can buy these things all day long at cheaperthandirt.com for $3.99, (without a few stickers). I've gotten 40 of them from there so far, & have not had a bad one in the bunch. A quick coat of Rustoleum, in the color of my choice, & a quick shot of white over my pre-made cache stencil and they're good to go. If these things came fully loaded with cache goodies & logbook, I'd consider paying that price.
Posted by Bitmaster on July 23 2002,4:19 pmHas anyone seen ammo boxes that are LARGER than .50 cal. ammo boxes?
While I was visiting my mom in Cortland, New York, I stopped into the local Army & Navy surplus store because I happen to see the huge ammo box in the window.
It was about 1 1/2 times the size of a standard .50 cal. ammo box. The guy told me that the ammo boxes were for SAW rounds, which are kinda like rifle-propelled grenades from an M-16 rifle. The M-203 attaches to an M-16 rifle & fires the SAW rounds.
Anyway, you can fit much more into one of these ammo boxes than a standard .50 cal. box & I wanted to get more. I only bought 2 of them (should have bought more as they were only 9 bucks for 2 of them) and wish I would have gotten more...
Has anyone seen these type of ammo boxes before & if so, do you know where I could put my hands on a few?
Posted by barrington on July 23 2002,5:41 pm
In the Rochester, NY area the surplus place near Brockport (Brockport-Spencerport Road, next to the flea market) had a variety, some very large. A bit pricey, but he can be talked down if you buy a few. They come from Fort Drum.
Posted by Morseman on July 25 2002,2:47 pm
What size is the "standard" ammo box?
Over here I've found a BOGOF (Buy One Get One Free) offer on Ammo boxes.
£2.50 gets you two "small" ammo boxes
£3.00 gets you two "medium" ammo boxes
£3.50 gets you two "large" but wooden, ammo boxes.
At $1.52 per £1.00 (at present) I bought two "mediums" at what I thought a reasonable price, but if someone wants to make an offer.......
I'll let you know what size they are, if you like, but they are much bigger than your average tupperware box!
Posted by mikechim on July 25 2002,8:19 pmI saw the ultimate ammo can in the campsite at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. They were huge, I was so impressed I took pictures, which I'll post here when I finally get my film developed.
Posted by cenobite07 on Oct. 31 2002,11:35 amAnyone else need ammo cans?
I'm planning to pick up a few soon so I can get started placing caches.
I stopped in to the surplus place in Brockport today since I live out there. Their published prices for single cans are a bit high but the quantity prices are reasonable. Right now, 30 cal cans are 3 for 12 bucks and 50 cal are 3 for $21 (still a bit high). They also have 20mm and 60mm cans.
These prices are higher than some of the online places but there is no shipping cost. Most of the sites I've seen, shipping is as much or more than the cost of the cans.
They said they are willing to work out better prices for larger quantities and I want to see if anyone else needs them so we can work out the best deal we can.
BTW, I have no affiliation at all with the store, or the us military, nor am I looking to make a profit. I just believe in buying in bulk to save everyone a few bucks.
If you're interested, just drop me an email at email@example.com or through the site.
Posted by cenobite07 on Nov. 05 2002,10:14 pmOK, I can admit when I didn't do my homework.....I should have paid attention to Roadkill (It's just that I'm afraid of the growth on his head)...
I just bought a dozen cans from Steve at SirPlus Supply in Irondequoite.
He has the best prices I've seen - as cheep as cheaperthandirt with no shipping.
He is in the process of moving out of his house in Iron. and has a new website. The cans are amazingly clean and he has some that were painted over by the army that are even cheaper.
The new site is sirplussupply.com and the link to the catalog is: < http://www.sirplussupply.com/catalog.html >
He has them in stock in several sizes including big mortar cans for the truly motivated. The bigger ones aren't on the site yet.
Now to get 'em painted and planted
Posted by Cracker7M on Nov. 06 2002,7:09 amSo, does he have an actual store that you went to?
Posted by cenobite07 on Nov. 06 2002,3:08 pmHe has the online store and I got the impression he typically had the garage set up to display items as well. He had everything packed up since he is moving.
He also has a warehouse in Rochester but hesitated to meet there since it isn't in the best part of town.