Forum: General Discussion
Topic: That pesky .1 mile rule...
started by: TEAM 360
Posted by TEAM 360 on Dec. 10 2003,8:54 pmWhat is the policy here on Navicache if I list a cache here, and it is within .1 mile of another cache that is listed on GC.com? Does the rulebook on the other site apply here?
Posted by Tahosa on Dec. 11 2003,11:48 amI hope not. That rule might be useful in California land of Caches every other .001 of a mile. But here in No. Co. its rather ridiculous.
Posted by Volvo Man on Dec. 12 2003,12:12 amI doubt that navicache checks GC.com before approving a cache here, I also doubt that GC.com checks here either. Although, I'd hope they do have some limits for proximity to other caches listed here though.
One thing the .1 mile does prohibit, and its a little bit of a shame, is placing 2 caches within the range of GPSr innaccuracy of each other. it could drive someone mad, "which cache have I found???" also, it would be fun to hide one at the base of a cliff and one at the top. (keep your eyes on the terrain, not just the GPSr!!!)
Posted by PC Medic on Dec. 12 2003,8:30 amNo, the rule book on the other site does not apply here. We have our similarities and we have our differences.
Regarding your question and the ".1 mile rule", we have no set distance limitation, and all submissions are considered individually. Some of the many reasons for this are that often a physical cache may be placed in an area that is very close to what would also make a good Virtual (something we still allow here). Also, we have instances where multi-caches have more than 1 leg within that distance and depending on terrain and location this may work in one area where it does not in another. We do not feel at this time that it is our place to make that decision.
Posted by Scout on Dec. 12 2003,9:42 amConfession time. I once listed a cache on Navicache that was well within the 0.1 mile limit of a cache on gc.com.
I'm not a premium member of gc.com. I noticed a new cache in my area was a members-only cache. Coordinates of such caches are hidden from non-members. Wanting to hunt it anyway, I triangulated its location using its distance from other caches, then I hunted it and found it. I took a GPS reading at the spot. Then, since non-members can't log members-only caches on gc.com, I created a virtual cache on Navicache.com using the coordinates I measured. That gave me one more hide, not a find, but it was good enough. I didn't claim the box as mine, only the location, which didn't exactly match the gc.com coordinates (which I haven't seen to this day).
Well, I greatly upset the cache hider. And I put Navicache in an awkward position, as I didn't inform them of the details of my virtual cache. I regret the incident now. Bottom line, you can list caches that are close to each other, but be careful.
Posted by TEAM 360 on Dec. 12 2003,9:54 amThank you for your prompt responses. I never liked that .1 mile rule, anyways. It's good to know that Navicache doesn't use that as a hard and fast rule.
Posted by TEAM 360 on Dec. 12 2003,9:56 am
Things could get interesting with caches that close together. The only way to tell which one you found would be to actually read the first page of the logbook, something I haven't done in a long time, I admit....
Posted by PC Medic on Dec. 12 2003,12:23 pmOr everyone could always place a < Navicache Stash Note > in all of their caches Which conveniently includes the cache name.
Posted by Volvo Man on Dec. 13 2003,3:51 pmoh, I'm way more sneaky than that, I would name them both virtually the same name, then put the name in the stash note as whatever part ? of 2.
Actually, as you mention that the rule isn't that defined here, I'm thinking that may be my next evil project after my mega multi marathon project. If I did that, say 2 good hiding places within 30 ft, would it get approved here on the basis that the 2 seperate listings form a matching pair?
Of course, being an evil genius, I would also probably put them both under significant tree cover, just to make things interesting. Or, perhaps a location similar to one I hunted the other day, which was dead centre between 2 massive Microwave transmitter masts, talk about dead zone for GPS!!! The closest I could get a reading was 100 ft away.