Forum: Just Getting Started In Geocaching
Topic: Virtual Cache
started by: caver

Posted by caver on Mar. 11 2004,5:15 pm
I tried posting my first virtual cache at another site.
I didn't know it was a taboo subject. :nono

Are they acceptable here?
I got tired of trying to jump through hoops
with the cache approver over there. So I compromised and tossed a micro there. It came up missing or the first guy couldn't find it. He complains and then my cache gets archived.

My virtual is a man made geological curiosity that you don't see very often. I wanted it to be virtual because it is in a known party area for locals even though it is somewhat remote. Also it is right on the border of Mark Twain National Forest (probably on NFS property as it's right next to a forest service road). I could ask permission but have done volunteer work with this department and don't want to cause any heartburn.
Also it is over an hour drive away and I've seen one too many caches in poor condition. I'm more into the location, I could care less about the physical cache but I do understand the fun it provides others.
So what are the guidelines for virtuals at this site?



Posted by Quinn on Mar. 11 2004,6:57 pm
Well to give you the basics...
If you are submitting a virtual it is a good idea to ask for some sort of proof from the cacher going after it in order to log the find. perhaps a picture taken with GPS in hand next to the location?
Or e-mail you the clue at the location and then you give permission to log as a find.

On national lands we ask that any virtual (and ONLY virtuals )  be coordinated in areas that are legal to hike on and also in areas where trails will not form as a result.
Getting permission from the land officers is always a big plus.

If you create a virtual please be very certain of your coordinates, do not just take the word of some book that lists them, you yourself should have taken the coordinate reading before submitting.

These are most of them but perhaps I have over looked others, but at least you get the idea.
We want everyone to have fun but at the same time we want to keep the lands and people safe.

Posted by caver on Mar. 11 2004,7:23 pm
I will probably have people post a picture.
I'll have the approver just delete it from the other site so it doesn't drive people nuts if they use Buxley's maps.
It's a spot people can drive right up to so no trails to worry about. I'll try to submit it in a few days or after the weekend.
I have good coordinates as I was there about two weeks ago.

Thanks for providing an alternative site!!

Posted by Quinn on Mar. 12 2004,4:57 am
When two of the same cache coordinates are posted on both sites, Buxleys maps pick the navicache mark as the primary.
Posted by Renegade Knight on April 08 2004,9:31 pm
Quote (Quinn @ Mar. 12 2004,4:57 am)
When two of the same cache coordinates are posted on both sites, Buxleys maps pick the navicache mark as the primary.

That's interesting.
Posted by PC Medic on April 09 2004,5:08 am
The Readers Digest condensed version of the answer is YES, Virtuals are accepted here.
Posted by virgo91967 on Sep. 04 2004,10:12 pm
Quote (caver @ Mar. 11 2004,7:15 pm)
My virtual is a man made geological curiosity that you don't see very often. I wanted it to be virtual because it is in a known party area for locals even though it is somewhat remote. Also it is right on the border of Mark Twain National Forest (probably on NFS property as it's right next to a forest service road). I could ask permission but have done volunteer work with this department and don't want to cause any heartburn.
Also it is over an hour drive away and I've seen one too many caches in poor condition. I'm more into the location, I could care less about the physical cache but I do understand the fun it provides others.
So what are the guidelines for virtuals at this site?

Ummm... from what i understand from years dealingwith the forestry service here in KY ( long story , different sort of outdoor activities) ,there are no blanket NFS regulations on cacheing HOWEVER, the responsible thing to do is contact the ranger district in the 'neck o' the woods' where you plan to place your cahce... national PARKS department hold a blanket national ban on caches of ANY sort ( how would they know about a Virtual, though?) including virts. :nono

If I were one of the powers that be, I would not deny your virt.  might give ya greif for not planting a log book somewhere though
:grinnin

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