Now don't think me to be morbid, but some of the best caching hunts I have been on revolved around Information obtained via tombstones within a graveyard. I have noticed that many people like to use the markers of long gone people to transform and calculate new coordinates from. What are the thoughts from all of you here on this topic? I first mentioned this idea in the other forum but thought it would be nice to drop it here as well. Also there is a website called Find a Grave www.findagrave.com that you can search the data base to locate famous people all over the world, umm, they are dead though. I have contacted the owner of that site a while back and after a few e-mails back and forth to each other I found out he also was a geocacher. since then I have noticed that every so often while searching his site there are coordinates posted to some of these graves. Pretty Neat!
well I better dig that one back up then :biggrin: I dont use the stones of recently buried people, I try to date back in early 1800's if I can. But also here where I live there are some cemetery's that have guided tours to show where famous people are buried and also to give history lessons. Without giving away too much on this, there is a cache placed here that does this very thing, gives you a history lesson while finding it. Dont get me wrong, you dont find the cache there, you just transfix numbers to get the cache coordinates. One Cache I did involved the dates of a grave that belonged to a little 3 year old girl who died in the early 1800's. I thought it sad that here was this grave all grown over with grass and weeds and totally forgotten by all from the shape of it. This was my way of bringing her into the thoughts of those that visited the grave. Not to mention she was three, and all kids love games as I am sure she would have also.
There are ways to do this in good taste and otherwise. If the emphasis is on the memory of the deceased, it can be pulled off without appearing crass. If the emphasis is on the game, it will come across as crass, no matter how much history it is wrapped in. Where the line is drawn is a matter of personal opinion, in which people of good conscience will differ. In cases where the reaction has the potential to be strong and emotional, I advise people to err on the side of caution.
There's an interesting gravestone in the local churchyard of the town where I now live. I've been meaning to use it as a clue in a "Round Bolsover" multicache, but have not yet got the 'Round Tuit" to set it up. It would only involve people reading the gravestone, which they are free to do anyway, enjoy the way that the gravestone has been written (I'll copy it down and post it so you can see what I mean) and then use the information to find the lat/long of the next location.
Since the gravestone has been written in a witty and apt, for the person buried beneath it, way, I wouldn't have thought that encouraging people to read and enjoy it as well would be objected to.
I sometimes think that people a hundred years or so ago had a far less squeemish view of death and bereavement than sometimes seems to be taken now-a-days.
Oh, and one of my favourite psudo-quotations is "Is the grave of Karl Marx just another Communist Plot?" He, of course, is buried in Highgate Cemetry, in London, near to where a Dashpoint, that I visited in a previous game, had been set. I did think about going along, but didn't have time.
I know this thread was from a ways back but Ive been reading all the old ones & came across this one. For what its worth I thought I would add my thoughts on it.
I enjoy cemetery locations. I have several caches at them. I call them my SPIRIT QUEST. They all have to do with history. Where I live was the 'First settlement in Maryland' seveal centuries ago so there is a ton of history here. I have 1 location that the oldest grave site on the island is located & has been preserved along with what appears to be several family members from the early 1700's. I did not place a cche at the site out of respect but you must go to this grave site to get a det of coords to then add numbers to to get the location of the cache, which is outside the small cemetery. These grounds are maintained by the Historic Society & was approved to do this. There is no disrespect as it is a beautiful area & is tied in with a 'series' of historical sites I have caches at.
I also have caches at other locations that have memorials tucked away on the cemetery grounds in honor of our military who gave the ultimate for this country. These beautiful memorials were established by local VFW chapters, who were also consulted prior & were glad to have something there to draw others to the site. Some have just a keybox to minimize the disturbance but others have a container when it was appropriate without id disturbing the sites. I have printed out the cache page with the logs & taken them to the VFW to share so they can see that what they have done has been appreciated by others.
I have gotten great response from my co cachers who have visited these sites & all have be humbled.
On the other hand I have visited some cemetery cache locations that have been awesome. 1 where I grew up near that has always been rumored to be haunted, of course. Some of the Civil War historical sites & memorials for our military & our Police, Firefighters & Paramedics who have lost their lives giving so others could live.
Since Navicache allows virtuals I will now be able to do other SPIRIT QUEST locatins without being concerned about containers & being able to focus on the historical so.......my response is Yes I like them & will continue to haunt them. MW
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Posted: April 15 2008,2:49 pm
each cemetery offers different options. In some a container may be acceptable, in others it may not leaving the possible option for a virtual. Most would at the vey least off the option of providing a clue or information needed to complete a particular leg of a multi-stage cache.
No matter what remember that cemeteries are almost always private property so entry and exit times need to be obeyed and permission may need to be obtained as well.
Where I live was the 1st settlement in Md so along with the extended history there are numerous off the beating path grave sites. Some that are still used by family members going back to the 1700's. I've seen new graves in some of these within the last yr or so indicating that family is still tending these areas. So if you find a location you want to share do the homework, try to locate the family first. If you can't then use the virtual, which is 1 of the advantages of NC, make the way point close but not on the site. This way others can enjoy while letting those that lie within to rest in peace & we also don't disturb the family members. MW