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cache type Venn 2 cache size

by enduromaniac
(Finds: 16  Score: 73)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 33.5)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 50° 33.979'   E 006° 11.286'
This may not be the actual cache coordinate.

Hahnheister,   Deutschsprachige Gemeinschaft   
Belgium    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 03 Nov 2002
Waypoint (Landmark): N003C8
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Multi-Part
Cache size:   Normal

Difficulty: gps gps (easy)
Terrain: gps gps gps (moderate)

Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available No pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!

Since this cache is in a nature reserve, there are some do's and don't's that you should be aware of:

1) In case of danger of forest fire, the area is completely closed. Red flags are hanging out at all entrances to the area, and you should check by a phonecall : 0032-(0)-87-552313 or at http://www.naturpark-hohesvenn-eifel.de/ before you leave. Usually the area is closed from the snow melt till Easter because of fire danger. You cannot reach the cache at these times.

2) Bikes are not allowed on those trails you need to walk on to do the cache, also no motor driven vehicle. (Sorry, Marco!)

3) Dogs are not allowed in the nature reserve, not even on the leash. (Sorry, Chakko!)

4) Smoking is not allowed in the sensitive areas. (Sorry, Ray!)

5) Don't leave the paths, it's not good for the nature, and very dangerous for you (remember, it's a swamp, and lots of people have died there when falling in a mudhole and not coming out on their own again.)

When coming from Aachen along B258, watch your speed all times carefully!

When coming from Eupen along N67 enjoy this fine example of belgian roads.

We have not implemented maps outside of the U.S.A. ... YET!

Additional maps for this cache available at: topozone.com logo    mapquest.com logo

This cache is part of a series of caches I plan that can be done in one line (if you have the time and strength to do so). It leads you through the Hautes Fagnes, a moor area that is very beautiful at all seasons - be it in summer when the air is hot and flickering above the ground and mosquitos are swirling around your head, be it in winter with lots of snow, even in thick fog it is very nice. Try to pick a time when there is no one else there - on a weekday, in the early morning.

You should bring high waterproof boots or trekking sandals, if you don't mind dirty and wet feet. Depending on the trail you choose, you may have to walk through a river. The area can be very muddy, and even on the trails you can sink into the mud up to your ankles and deeper.

The walk length in total is 11 km, the first part is easy, you almost only walk on wooden boards. Behind station 5 the trail turns extremely muddy, and depending on rain falls in the last weeks, you might have to wade through rivers.


Let's go finally!

About coding and decoding: Every code is only valid at the station where you got it. The first numbers of each code are always N 50°3.,... and E 6°1.,... so I only give you the last four digits without the ','.

You can park your car or bike at the given coordinates. If you want to come by bus, take Bus 166 from Aachen Bus Station to Monschau, there change to Bus 85 and exit at Mützenich Zoll. On weekends, there is also bus service from Eupen train station with line 385.

Station 1 (Parking Lot)
At the starting place there is a flag pole. Fixed to it is a sign written in four languages. It contains a date DD/MM/YYYY and a phone number XX (X) XX XX XX XX. To the date, assign ABCDEFGH, to the last six digits of the phone number assign IJKLMN.

BTW: You can take any flag pole you meet in the Fagnes - the 4 language sign will be always the same. When you are doing Venn 3 and want to continue Venn 2 without returning to the start of Venn 3, keep your eyes open early enough to gather the information searched for now. This can save you 3 km of walk, and you can start at station 2 of Venn 2.

Now go to station 2 at BPB(I+L)/NCEJ

Station 2
Nearby is a trilingual information board about a typical sort of forest. Take the German word for this sort of forest. Assign to the first ten different letters numbers from 0 to 9 in the order they occur in the word. If a letter occurs that already has a number, leave it open.(Example: The word "HAGEBUTTENHAIN" results in H=1, A=2, G=3, E=4, B=5, U=6, T=7, N=8, I=9)

Now go to Station 3 at HANE/FCHW

Station 3
A very interesting place that lets you determine the flora at this place 10000 years ago. I am searching for the times when certain trees had their maximal stand. As answer, give me the year number EARLIER than the maximum. Example: if the maximum of a certain tree is at 3500 B.C., and year numbers are 3000 B.C. and 3800 B.C., the right answer is 3800 B.C..

Hazel: AB 00 B.C. (Hasel) Hornbeam: CDE A.D. (Hainbuche) Pine: FG00 B.C. (Kiefer)

0 is number zero and not letter O.

Go to station 4 at GEG(D-G)/E(A-B)AC

Station 4
You are standing on a wooden platform. It is made out of AB boards in C rows. In total it is AB*C = DEF wooden boards. In average, every board is fixed by G nails. The total amount of nails is DEF*G=HIJK nails.

Go to Station 5 at JAAD/K(G+J)(A+D)(B+C)

I recommend the board path that starts at JHC(G+D)/F(C+D)DK. It is more beautiful than the forest road, and the character of the fen is a total different one.

Station 5
There is a three digit number written in white on a blue sign, on a small tree stump next to a birch. Note it as "code #1"

Go to station 6 at GJF(G+J)/IDBG with the code from station 4

Station 6
How many benches are standing around the rock formation? This is code #2. Nearby is a border stone bearing a three digit number. This is code #3.

Cache is at 2*#2*#3 + #1 + 95 / #2*#3 + 2*#1 + 97

In the logbook, there are coordinates for station 3 of Venn 1. If you still have power, go for it from here. You can also find a description for the shortest (and nicest) way back to the starting point.

Clue decoding tables - Top letter or symbol decodes to bottom letter or symbol:



Clues:    decode

  • The cache 
    vf uvqqra haqre n ovt syng fgbar arkg gb gur sberfg ebnq>

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CACHE LOGS - May contain hints(spoilers)!    decode

Note 10 Jul 2007 by  radioscout  (Finds: 244  Score: 874)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 62.5)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

I revisited this cache today as a part of the GeoCache Trek.
We hab a nice hike on a beautiful day with perfect geocaching weather.

Heute haben wir diesen Cache als Teil des GeoCache Trek nochmal besucht.
Wir hatten eine schöne Wanderung bei bestem Geocaching-Wetter.

Note 10 Jul 2007 by  Epaphras  (Finds: 5  Score: 33.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Auf dem Weg des GeoCache Trek gegangen, Cachebox ist in Ordnung.
Vielen Dank, liebe Grüße,


[Modified 2007-07-10 15:55:19]

Note 29 Dec 2006 by  radioscout  (Finds: 244  Score: 874)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 62.5)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

More than three years after finding the cache epaphras and me did the complete Venn 2 and Venn 1 walk again.
We had a very nice walk in the beautiful Hohes Venn on a day with perfect geocaching weather.
The cache box is still in very good condition.

Nach mehr als drei Jahren nach meinem ersten Besuch dieses Caches haben epaphras und ich diese schöne Vennwanderung wiederholt. Wir hatten eine sehr schöne Vennwanderung bei allerbestem Geocachingwetter. Der Cache liegt sauber und trocken in seinem Versteck.

I found it! 29 Dec 2006 by  Epaphras  (Finds: 5  Score: 33.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Auf langer Cachetour (Venn 2 und 1) zusammen mit Radioscout abgelaufen. Die Cachedose ist noch schön trocken und intakt am ursprünglichen Ort. Der Cache ist nach den Beschreibungen nicht mehr zu loggen, weil sich einige Punkte geändert haben. Dank den Aufzeichungen von Radioscout konnten wir den Weg jedoch abgehen und dann am Ende loggen. Das Venn war klasse. Wir hatten eine schöne Wanderung bei kaltem und sonnigen Winterwetter.

Die beiden Caches sind es mehr als wert, instand gesetzt zu werden! Eine der schönsten Wanderungen, die ich als Cacher je gemacht habe!!!

Vielen Dank für den Cache!

In: LED-Feuerzeug
Out: %

Liebe Grüße, Epaphras

I found it! 08 Oct 2006 by  JoPeDie  (Finds: 48  Score: 197.5)    (Hidden: 1  Score: 4)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Heute durch Zufall gefunden, war eigentlich auf der suche nach einem anderen Cache der auch gefunden wurde.

I couldn 02 Jul 2006 by  sluerb  (Finds: 4  Score: 15.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Cache leider nicht gefunden. Erst hat mich P verwirrt. Gibt es gar nicht... Dann bin an der dritten Station gescheitert, die Koordinaten führten ins Nichts. Werde es aber nochmal versuchen...


I found it! 10 Apr 2004 by  nachteule  (Finds: 119  Score: 456)    (Hidden: 3  Score: 11.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

In Verbindung mit einem anderem Cache hier in der Gegend, habe ich endlich auch diesen Cache fertig machen können. Ich hatte ihn vor einigen Wochen schon mal begonnen, aber das Wetter hatte mir einen Strich durch die Rechnung gemacht. Allerdings wurde es auch Heute Nachmittag wieder schlecht und es setzte Regen ein, immer noch besser wie Schnee.

raus: TB
rein: Pin

Danke für die Wanderung und den Cache


I found it! 01 Nov 2003 by  Lion and Aquaria  (Finds: 46  Score: 163.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Was für ein kaaaalter Cache!

Nachdem Captain Cook und ich bereits bei Schnee einen Großteil des Caches geandert waren, durfte ich nun den Endcache heben :-)

Das Thermometer in Cache-Nähe bestätigte mir 2 Grad Celsius abzüglich Wind-Chill *bibber*

In: Frischetuch (wer braucht das bei der Kälte ;-)
Out: türkiser Kuli (schööön)

Danke für diesen schööönen Cache :-)
[Modified 2003-11-15 07:20:42]

I found it! 29 Sept 2003 by  Scaramanga  (Finds: 246  Score: 923.5)    (Hidden: 41  Score: 140.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Venn1 und 2 hatten wir vor einiger Zeit schon in Angriff genommen. Heute haben wir die Caches endlich gehoben. Sehr schöne Wanderungen, nach dem Märschen sind wir allerdings platt.

Vielen Dank für den Cache!
Scaramanga & May

I found it! 09 Jun 2003 by  Sleidanus  (Finds: 85  Score: 331.5)    (Hidden: 7  Score: 29.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

After a very interesting walk through the Venn solving different tasks found the cache in best condition.

[Modified 2003-06-10 03:28:50]

I found it! 19 May 2003 by  radioscout  (Finds: 244  Score: 874)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 62.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

A very nice hike in a great landscape, even with rainy weather.
I thought of doing Venn 1 directly after Venn 2 but because the rain became stronger, I decided to do it on a day with better weather. Half the way home the sun came through the clouds...

In: euregiobahn pen
Out: one of the 2 green pens

I found it! 01 May 2003 by  weblobster  (Finds: 3  Score: 13.5)    (Hidden: 1  Score: 5.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

A wonderful walk through the Venn.
We enjoyed it a lot, even so we had some problems with the first two stations. (Wrong information). But we worked it out anyway.
Other than that it was a lot of fun and in the end we found our first but for sure not last cache.

Thank you for the cache and a wonderful walk through the Venn


In: Snowman Pin
Out: Nothing

[Modified 2003-05-01 14:55:14]

[Modified 2003-05-01 14:56:04]

I found it! 16 Mar 2003 by  Captain Cook  (Finds: 29  Score: 113.5)    (Hidden: 31  Score: 94)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Fortunatelly we visited the Stations already in February, but because of knee-deep snow we had to finish at Station 6.
So we can log the final cache today although the ways through the Venn are closed.

Thank you, enduromaniac, for another pretty walk through this countryside!

In: hourglass (3 minutes !)
Out: cloth to clean car-windows

Captain Cook

I found it! 10 Nov 2002 by  Gargish  (Finds: 42  Score: 172.5)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 25)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

This was my first cache hike in the Venn, a beautiful (though cold) walk through the Venn.

Thanks enduromaniac,
[Modified 2002-11-26 21:13:53]

I found it! 09 Nov 2002 by  Blinky Bill  (Finds: 730  Score: 2909.5)    (Hidden: 27  Score: 107.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Weather wasn't too bad today so we went back to the Venn area for Venn2. At the parking we had the first problem: Couldn't find the P (printed in the former description - bug now fixed by enduromaniac) - an SMS to the cacheowner was returned with the missing information very quickly :-). We continued to station 2 where we found the word. Another bug in numbering this word was fixed by ourselves (also corrected in the present description). All other points were accurate. The whole track leads thru a different part of the area, again impressing and many-facetted. From parking to the cache it took us 3 hours approx. Return to car is another hour when walking relaxed. We had a pleasant hike - tnx for this one, we're looking forward to Venn3. In: bear figure Out: angel figure Next visitor: Please bring along a plastic bag for the cache, we forgot it unfortunately :-((
Kerstin & Marco

[Modified 2003-01-08 06:37:19]


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