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cache type Venn 1 cache size

by enduromaniac
(Finds: 16  Score: 73)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 33.5)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 50° 35.939'   E 006° 14.856'
This may not be the actual cache coordinate.

Hoscheit,   Deutschsprachige Gemeinschaft   
Belgium    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 24 Oct 2002
Waypoint (Landmark): N003C7
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Multi-Part
Cache size:   Normal

Difficulty: gps gps (easy)
Terrain: gps gps gps gps (hard)

Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available No pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!

Since this cache is in a nature reserve, there are some do's and don't's that you should be aware of:

1) In case of danger of forest fire, the area is completely closed. Red flags are hanging out at all entrances to the area, and you should check in the internet http://www.naturpark-hohesvenn-eifel.de/ or by a phonecall : 0032-(0)-80-447272 or 0032-(0)-87-552313 before you leave. Usually the area is closed from the snow melt till Easter because of fire danger. You cannot reach the cache at these times

2) Bikes are not allowed on those trails you need to walk on to do the cache, also no motor driven vehicle. (Sorry, Marco!)

3) Dogs are not allowed in the nature reserve, not even on the leash. (Sorry, Chakko!)

4) Smoking is not allowed in the sensitive areas. (Sorry, Ray!)

5) Don't leave the paths, it's not good for the nature, and very dangerous for you (remember, it's a swamp, and lots of people have died there when falling in a mudhole and not coming out on their own again.)

When coming from Aachen along B258, watch your speed all times carefully!

We have not implemented maps outside of the U.S.A. ... YET!

Additional maps for this cache available at: topozone.com logo    mapquest.com logo

This cache is the first part of a series of caches I plan that can be done in one line (if you have the time and strength to do so). This one leads you through the Hautes Fagnes, a moor area that is very beautiful at all seasons - be it in summer when the air is hot and flickering above the ground and mosquitos are swirling around your head, be it in winter with lots of snow, even in thick fog it is very nice. Try to pick a time when there is no one else there - on a weekday, in the early morning.

You should bring high waterproof boots or trekking sandals, if you don't mind dirty and wet feet. Depending on the trail you choose, you may have to walk through a river. The area can be very muddy, and even on the trails you can sink into the mud up to your ankles and deeper.

Altogether, this cache is a 16-18 km walk, mainly along board walks, muddy paths or grass ways. During the walk, there is no chance to get drinking water, buy food or stay overnight.


About coding and decoding: Every code is only valid at the station where you got it. The first numbers of each code are always N 50°3.,... and E 6°1.,... so I only give you the last four digits without the ','.

You can park your car or bike at the railroad station of Konzen, just next to B258, at N 50°36.000' E 6°14,918' (which is 6000/4918). Public transport is bus line 166 from Aachen. Sorry, there is currently no train service.

After finding the cache, walk back to the parking lot for your car, the bus or the next cache, Kall 1, which will be set out soon. It's about 3 km to the parking lot.

Go to station 1 at 5939/4856.

Station 1
You are standing in front of a table showing a map of the area, and some walking suggestions. Take those walks, that are marked with an asterisk (*, i.e. not to be done when there is fire guard). Add the kilometers of these walks and the times to walk them. If necessary, round the result up to the next full km or h.
AB km in CD hours.

Your next station is at DCEE/FGCH with E = B-2A, F = A-C, G = C+D, H = D-C

Station 2
You are standing in front of an object. A little metal plate shows three year numbers. In chronological order, they resemble the code ABCD EFGH IJKL.
Your next station is at GFEL/LADM with M = C-G

Station 3
Two little wooden boards (about 10*40 cm) show some words. Take the first word of each board and order them alphabetically. Assign to the letters the numbers 1 to 0 in the order they appear. If a letter occurs that already has a number, omit it. (Example: Word HEIDELBEERE yields in H=1, E=2, I=3, D=4, L=5, B=6, R=7)
Your next station is at MMGM/YALS

Station 4
You are standing in front of an object showing a date. Transform this date into DDMMYYYY format, and assing this number to ABCDEFGH.
Note the date somewhere, you'll need it later.

Your next station is at IJAH/KLMN with I = G-E, J = D-E, K = G-D, L = G-B, M = B-E, N = D-A

Station 5
You are standing in front of a small green fence. Inside the fence there is a light blue something, bearing a small metal plate with one eight-letter word on it. Sharpen your eyes to read it.
There is another five-letter word written at certain parts of the fence. Put this word behind the first one, and assign to the letters the numbers 1 to 9. If a letter occurs that already has a number, omit it.

Now calculate the cache coordinates: CODE1 is ETFW + month from date at station 4 CODE2 is IGTG + day from date at station 4

The cache is at CODE1/CODE2

Good luck, and have matsch (<- german for mud) fun! enduromaniac

Clue decoding tables - Top letter or symbol decodes to bottom letter or symbol:



Clues:    decode

  • The Cache 
    pna or tenoorq sebz gur fgerrg

NoteAdd a Log Entry

CACHE LOGS - May contain hints(spoilers)!    decode

Note 10 Jul 2007 by  radioscout  (Finds: 244  Score: 874)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 62.5)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

The second cache of the GeoCacheTrek series.
Walking in the Hautes Fagnes is really great fun.

Der zweite Cache aus der GeoCache Trek-Serie.
Wandern im Venn macht viel Spaß, besonders bei so schönem Wetter wie heute.

Note 10 Jul 2007 by  Epaphras  (Finds: 5  Score: 33.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Auf dem Weg des GeoCache Trek gegangen, Cachebox ist in Ordnung.
Vielen Dank, liebe Grüße,

[Modified 2007-07-10 15:56:16]

Note 29 Dec 2006 by  radioscout  (Finds: 244  Score: 874)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 62.5)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

More than three years after finding the cache epaphras and me did the complete Venn 2 and Venn 1 walk again.
After Venn 2 we continued with Venn 1.

Nach Venn 2 sind wir direkt weiter zu Venn 1 gegangen. Bei schönstem Herbstwetter zeigte sich das Hohe Venn in seiner ganzen Schönheit.
Den Cache haben wir getrocknet; das Logbuch ist dank Ziplock-Beutel sauber und trocken.

I found it! 29 Dec 2006 by  Epaphras  (Finds: 5  Score: 33.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Auf langer Cachetour (Venn 2 und 1) zusammen mit Radioscout abgelaufen. Die Cachedose war durchfeuchtet und wurde wieder instand gesetzt. Die Cachekoordinaten sind ganz genau. Der Hint stimmt jedoch nicht mehr so ganz. Der Cache ist nach den Beschreibungen nicht mehr zu loggen, weil sich einige Punkte geändert haben. Dank den Aufzeichungen von Radioscout konnten wir den Weg jedoch abgehen und dann am Ende loggen. Das Venn war klasse. Wir hatten eine schöne Wanderung bei kaltem und sonnigen Winterwetter.

Die beiden Caches sind es mehr als wert, instand gesetzt zu werden! Eine der schönsten Wanderungen, die ich als Cacher je gemacht habe!!!

Vielen Dank für den Cache!

In: %
Out: %

Liebe Grüße, Epaphras
[Modified 2006-12-29 17:07:42]

I found it! 29 Sept 2003 by  Scaramanga  (Finds: 246  Score: 923.5)    (Hidden: 41  Score: 140.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Venn1 und 2 hatten wir vor einiger Zeit schon in Angriff genommen. Heute haben wir die Caches endlich gehoben. Sehr schöne Wanderungen, nach dem Märschen sind wir allerdings platt.

Vielen Dank für den Cache!
Scaramanga & May

I found it! 19 Jun 2003 by  weblobster  (Finds: 3  Score: 13.5)    (Hidden: 1  Score: 5.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Great walk and we made it in a little bit more than 3,5 hours.
Even so we are very familiar with this are, we found some new path today. Thank you.
No kidding, it's muddy.

Nothing exchanged.


[Modified 2003-06-19 11:10:37]

[Modified 2003-06-19 11:11:29]

I found it! 15 Jun 2003 by  Sleidanus  (Finds: 85  Score: 331.5)    (Hidden: 7  Score: 29.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Sehr schöne Vennwanderung bei bestem Wetter.
Habe mich bei Station 4 verhaspelt. Durch Zufall landete ich jedoch in der Nähe von Station 5. Nach der Messung der dortigen Koordinaten gelang es die relevanten Zahlen aus Station 4 zu rekonstruieren.
Der Cache wurde dann mühelos aufgefunden. Er ist intakt, auch wenn Mäuse der Tüte schon einige Löcher beigebracht haben. Kein Handlungsbedarf.

In: CD für Funkamateure, Kuli (war keiner mehr drin)
Out: Flummi, Wecker


I found it! 23 May 2003 by  radioscout  (Finds: 244  Score: 874)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 62.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

A very long but beautiful hike trough the Venn.
Because some parts of the Venn are temporarily closed due to protection of
some breeding birds I had to make two big detours wich led to a
total track of more than 25 km.

in: music CD
out: micado game

I found it! 10 Feb 2003 by  Lion and Aquaria  (Finds: 46  Score: 163.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Because Captain Cook unintentionally took the GeoCaching Info-Paper with her, I decided to walk to the cache and put a new one in...
The sight was soooooo beautiful because of more than a half meter of bright snow :-)

Unfortunately Lion wasn't able to come with me... he loves the savanna, but he can't handle a snow-desert ;-)

In: GeoCaching Info-Paper
Out: ? can't remember :-(

[Modified 2003-11-15 07:23:36]

I found it! 25 Jan 2003 by  Captain Cook  (Finds: 29  Score: 113.5)    (Hidden: 31  Score: 94)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Finally we managed it to visit this cache:
The Venn was wonderful, the heaven was bright blue, all ways and paths were frozen except one creek, we had to wade through it barefooted, because we came here in walking-shoes (sauna-effect).

Thank you, enduromaniac, for this cache that showed even us old Vennwanderers some new Vennsites.
Thank you, Gargish, for the well fitting new hiding-place.

In: alarm-clock (in order to wake up the spring )
Out: card game

Captain Cook

I found it! 16 Nov 2002 by  Gargish  (Finds: 42  Score: 172.5)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 25)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

(Again) a very interesting and exciting walk through the Venn.


I found it! 01 Nov 2002 by  Blinky Bill  (Finds: 730  Score: 2909.5)    (Hidden: 27  Score: 107.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Nach 4.5 Stunden (inkl. kurzen Pausen) und 15 km (inkl. 300m Umweg) trafen wir endlich am Cacheort ein. Die Box wurde dann auch schnell gefunden, leider ist sie bezogen auf die Gesamtstrecke etwas spartanisch eingerichtet. Wir hätten ja gerne den Müsliriegel genommen, dieser hatte jedoch schon vor 8 Monaten sein MHD-Leben verwirkt. Der Weg durch eine beeindruckende und abwechslungsreiche Landschaft hat uns jedoch entschädigt. An Station 4 gibt es eine Abweichung von 35-40m, die aber kein Problem darstellt, da die Aufgabe eindeutig ist. Gummistiefel sind nicht unbedingt erforderlich, können aber zwischen Station 4 und 5, sowie zw. 6 und Cache nützlich sein (ist halt wetterabhängig). Auf dem Rückweg zum Auto (noch mal etwa 3km) liefen wir ein Stück parallel zu unserem Hinweg und konnten eine Person sehen, die an einer bestimmten Stelle mit Papier hantierte (sah aus wie Rafter - war aber etwas zu weit weg). Nichts getauscht.
Kerstin & Marco
[Modified 2003-01-08 06:34:22]


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