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by Brogan
(Finds: 2  Score: 7.5)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 18.5)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 42° 38.906'   W 077° 58.728'
Castile,   New York   14427
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 05 Oct 2002
Waypoint (Landmark): N00383
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Normal
Cache size:   Large

Difficulty: gps gps half gps (moderate)
Terrain: gps gps gps half gps (moderate)

Misc: Drinking water available. There are restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available There may be fees.


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This was an event cache for the Letchworth Fall Gathering , however the response was overwhelmingly positive that it was decided to leave it in place permanently.
The cache is located South of the Perry entrance to Letchworth State Park, there is no established trail and the terrain is steep in places but fairly open and clear of undergrowth.
The cache is a 25mm Mortar case with Geocache written in Black permanent marker on all sides, keep in mind that this is a large box (approx 14x14x7) which severely limits the number of hiding places. The box is in a wooded area with several steep ravines, none of which you need to cross or search.
As always be careful and cache to your abilities.

Clue decoding tables - Top letter or symbol decodes to bottom letter or symbol:



Clues:    decode

  • Duh! 
    Qba7g gel pebffvat gur enivarf1

  • Now what? 
    Vs pbasebagrq jvgu n enivar<urnq hcuvyy naq cvpx n arj jnl qbja>

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I found it! 07 May 2011 by  Szuchie  (Finds: 146  Score: 577)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 26)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Well folks…today I decided I would return to LSP and once again try to pass this peculiar test. Last time I was here I went in, and came out thinking I had completed this with flying colors…only to realize I wasn’t smart enough to sign the log after spending quite a while hanging out at the cache site trying to bait in some bears so I could score some candid wildlife photos. Dumb Szuchie, dumb.

When I told Brogan of my plans, he asked me to do a favor for him when I revisited this cache - and of course I would oblige. But that’s not the part of the story I’ll be telling. This is my story…

I arrived in the park pretty early - entering from Portageville. I made the long winding drive to the cache area, taking the opportunity to smile as the blue skies and sunshine lit up the gorge and the surrounding woods. The dullness of the forest had started looking more and more colorful as wildflowers and leaf buds started showing up everywhere. This is what I like most about Spring - the world coming alive.

I parked my SUVIE and packed up my gear. I entered as I had last time, covering the first couple hundred feet before picking up a long-since-forgotten access road that is still mildly recognizable. The road zigged me down part of the hill, before disappearing. From there I hit the first landing, and continued my trek down down down down. Boy, you sure do cover a lot of topo lines in order to pay this cache a visit!

The last part is the most steep, but even with all the rain we keep getting subjected to, the ground was pretty firm so no slipping or sliding were to be had. At one point, on the other side of nearby ravine, I heard an animal scurrying away, and was able catch a glimpse of a raccoon running along the ravines edge. Yay for wildlife! Actually, I was sort of curious if any bears would be meandering around down here as I started the final descent to the cache. No bears to be found though - maybe next time!

I arrived at the cache location, and found it very well hidden. It looks as though a few people had just visited a couple weeks ago! Good deal, as it’s a shame to see a cache like this go unfound for as long as it has. I pulled the cache from it’s spot, and immediately opened up the log book to scribble my name inside! I was legit now, sweeeeet! It’s only taken me like 6 months to get my butt back here. Haha.

After resealing the container, I dusted it off…and as requested by Brogan, I took it for a nice hike uphill. For the first time in nearly 9 years this cache was resting on pavement. It was a weird feeling, but at the same time, I was glad that this cache had provided so many great memories for cachers throughout the years. Thank you Brogan for this cool hide, and for nearly killing me on the uphill. I gotta lay off the omelets before hoofing up 200+ feet of elevation. Haha.


I found it! 23 Apr 2009 by  sabrefan7  (Finds: 13  Score: 57)    (Hidden: 3  Score: 11.5)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Found on 24 May 2008. Hides like this is what the games all about. I enjoyed the walk down,, back up down then back up again! Thanks for the hunt
[Modified 2009-04-24 00:15:48]

I found it! 14 Oct 2006 by  HuckleBuckle  (Finds: 77  Score: 273.5)    (Hidden: 67  Score: 223.5)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Well Mr. Brogan, GG, Gof, and HB got a lesson in topography twice. Gof and I started walking out towards the correct way to the cache only to be stopped and told to head down the other way. Those people got a little teasing from that, naturally.

Had a fun time on the way down to this one with a bunch of cachers from Fredonia and Dove78 as well. The plastic ammocan was found with ease. Awesome views from here, Letchworth is a gem. Thanks for the cache ABBM.


I found it! 14 May 2006 by  Paleoman  (Finds: 95  Score: 428)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 60)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

As I write this not I am still breathing hard and sweating. This was one that truly made me work for it, but it was worth it. I have always loved a challenge and this has taken challenge to a new level. I got to the area and then my GPS went bonkers it said look over here then look over there, no luck so I finally shut it off and did a survey of the area. That didn't produce any results so I resorted to a trick I have come to use quite often. I found and opening in the forest and then just set my GPS on a log and walked away from it for about 5 minutes. I rush up to it and noticed the direction the arrow is pointing, the distance to the target, and the accuracy. This worked just fine and I found the cache in less than 5 minutes. Took the 4 quarters I found to buy a bottle of water once I got out of there and left a small deer antler in the cache. - Paleoman52

I found it! 25 Mar 2005 by  motionsmiley  (Finds: 71  Score: 338)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

This was a long walk. Had to park at the campground and walk in. Not to much snow on the ground and there was none around the cache. Nice place for a hide. Thanks Brogan

Note 23 Jan 2005 by  Blackwatch Clan  (Finds: 13  Score: 51.5)    (Hidden: 15  Score: 44)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Brogan, can a new one be done again this year? Gamma Kitt fschutte@rochester.rr.com

I found it! 03 Jan 2004 by  Wheelygood  (Finds: 103  Score: 582)    (Hidden: 21  Score: 92)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

I took the name of the cache to heart, studied and was rewarded with an easy walk through the hardwoods. I found the cache as I was I looking a vista vantage point. The woods are nice but the photo ops are down in the gully so I lowered myself down and hiked up and all the way back out through the runoff. I think it was good practice for one of Rocky’s.

camera is full

  cameralower cascade

I found it! 03 May 2003 by  country boy gary  (Finds: 20  Score: 99)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

2nd cache of the day and this was the last one in this park that I had to
do.Had no problem finding cache and everything seemed in good shape.
Took/left nothing.Took picture no.12.Thanks for the hide!

I found it! 14 Apr 2003 by  Cracker7M  (Finds: 35  Score: 168.5)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 22)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Nice hide Brogan!
Of course, I chose the wrong ridge, and had to backtrack.
Excellent view of Letchworth Lake from this cache!The lake waters come right to the bottom of the bank below the cache.

When I got to the cache, there were two hawks circling and doing aerobatics. By the time I left, there were 9 of them!
I had good reception all the way in.

I took pic 14 and 13. Hope they come out OK.

Once I opened the cache, however, a bunch of water ran out of it. Everything was wet, but it can all be salvaged. I took the liberty of taking the cache home with me to dry everything and clean the muck off/out of the box.
I will be replacing it in the morning (4/15).

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I found it! 26 Oct 2002 by  ROCKY  (Finds: 48  Score: 221)    (Hidden: 21  Score: 89)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Another beautiful day at Letchworth caching. Did not have time the day of the Gathering but we did not want to miss this one. Much easier getting there than getting back. Found the cache no problem, everything ok in your jumbo container. Thanks for the hide, we had fun and improved our cardieal-vascular health on the return trip.

I found it! 07 Oct 2002 by  Bitmaster  (Finds: 21  Score: 98)    (Hidden: 2  Score: 9)
    Open Log:  Personal use only


After our second attempt (had to beat feet back to the pavilion for pictures & drawing or there never would have been a second attempt :0) ), myself, Rippie, Dekaner, J-RA, and a boat load of people finally found Brogan's cache.

I must confess as to being one of a few fellow cacher's uttering a few choice words while looking for this cache - awesome hide & well placed! Hats off to Brogan for this great & challenging hide!

I, along with tons of others, logged our find; took nothing & left nothing...


I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  Team Ferret  (Finds: 56  Score: 244.5)    (Hidden: 8  Score: 32.5)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Well this was another great cache hunt (7:57pm). Our 3rd cache with Team Headrush, Crusaders and Onamision! One thing Terre and I learned long ago was to carry flashlights.(We have had a few frightening walks back in the dark.) As the other teams have said, it was real dark out there. Anytime the other teams want to go group caching agian, we'll be there! We took a rubber Pig nose and left a globe keycahin and knife keychain. Thanks guys for all the fun!
Team Ferret
Mark & Terre

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  Blackpete  (Finds: 406  Score: 1774)    (Hidden: 19  Score: 73)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Found this last year at the Letchworth picnic and didn't log here. Adding our log a year later!

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  road rash  (Finds: 30  Score: 130)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

This was great fun, the picnic was awesome not to mention the multiple cachers find on this one, thanx!!

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  Geo G  (Finds: 64  Score: 319)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Great hide for the Fall gathering. Half the fun was getting there, (but no fun in getting back). Enjoyed the exercise and the unique spot. Thanks

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  RobN Hood  (Finds: 45  Score: 218)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

With Geo G, POG and Lima Bean during the Fall Gathering. There were geocachers everywhere. As we came over the rise on the final stretch we spotted a group who had already found the cache. Oops. Oh well, we had found the Mossy Pine cache earlier and a veritable horde encountered us going through the "loot". This was certainly a day for exercise on hills.

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  balloonpilot and chickenlips  (Finds: 52  Score: 252.5)    (Hidden: 7  Score: 31)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

What a way to end the day!! We searched for this cache with about 300 other cachers!!!
seemed that way to me!! We played the huckle buckle game and proceeded to huckle buckle
hill while the others searched on. This was a clever hide and was one we won't easily forget.
Signed in but took and left nothing. Thank you for the memorable experience.

Note 05 Oct 2002 by  owlnebula  (Finds: 4  Score: 18)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

I headed directly into the woods from the paking spot, and found out the the cache was on the other side of the ravine and would have to head back to cross it. I was with another group (this was the weekend of the geocachers picnic), and they noted that the Mossy Pine cache was nearby so we searched for and found it before heading over for this one.

I arrived at the location for this cache, and Gandalf also arrived but had been there searching earlier in the day. He thought he knew where it should be (based on an additional clue) and searched about 50-60' from the location my GPS indicated and found it quickly. We were signing the log book as another group was heading down the hill.

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  Hinge Thunder  (Finds: 106  Score: 521)    (Hidden: 16  Score: 98.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Issaquah Puppy and I went over with Rippie, and a van load of others to look for the cache about 2pm. Issaquah Puppy was giving Dekaner little puppy kisses on his ear. He seemed to like it. On our way down the hill we ran into a group of people with an open cachebox. We were still a ways from teh special cache, and discovered this was the Mossy Pine cache that we weren't even looking for at the moment. We signed the log book anyway. We all headed down the hill, and got to about 500 feet from the cache, but it was across a ravine. Puppy and I were halway down into the ravine, when people were saying that we would need to cross a second ravine, and I was saying "So what?" When it became clear that no one else was going to cross the ravine, but were going to head up the hill, I decided that mush of the fun of this cache would be the group participation, rather than getting there among the first. We all headed up the hill, but when we got there, it was 10 to 3, so we head back to the pavillion for pictures at 3pm. The awards were at 4pm. After the awards, I had my wife take my car, and head back to wait at the camp site, while we all headed back to the cache. I again rode again with Rippie and gang. Again Puppy was giving little kisses to Dekaner. J-Ra seemed to be getting jealous. Well all headed back down the hill but starting in a different spot. I decided not to go as slowly this time, but to go at more my normal pace, so Puppy and I left the others in the dust. I got down the hill, and was within 150 feet of the cache, but it was again on the other side of a ravine. As I was examining the ravine, some of the others caught up with me. We heard people on the other side of the ravine. We asked if they had found the cache, but we couldn't get a straight answer. Some people on my side were talking about head back up the hill, but I decided to heck with that. All the while I was regretting not having gone across the other ravines. Puppy and I headed down into the ravine, and then back up the other side. Once of there, we quickly found the cache. As others were still looking, I pretended not to have found it, and continued looking, and made a circular route to 'Huckle Buckle Hill", and waited for others to find it. After a while everyone foudn it, and we begain a masss signing of the log. We then all head back up the hill. Again Puppy and I went up the hill at a faster pace than most. Rippie gave me a ride back to my campsite, and then headed back to the pavillion. I then realized I left my GPS in the back of Rippie's van. I jumped in my car, and drove back to the pavillion, found his van, and got my GPS out of the back. This was the second time this weekend I had forgotten my GPS. The first time, I left it on the roof of my car, and found it a short while later in the middle of the road where it had fallen off at about 40mph. Thanks for the fun Brogan!

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  WMSFresh  (Finds: 140  Score: 612)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 24.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Part of the 2nd round of boatload of people, found the cache late afternoon. Had alot of fun laughing at the people moaning on the other side of the ravine who decided not to follow our path down the hill (ours ended up being correct side) and arrived on scene w/ several people already there. Found cache 1st of our group, joined the group already on "HuckleBerry Hill", and waited for the rest of our group to go around (or cross) the ravine and locate the cache for themselves. Was very cool watching people find cache only a few at a time, and yet not give it away to all the others right there looking.

Part of the mass logging of the book. Took nothing, left nothing.

Thanks for the hide Brogan, job well done!

The Peppermill 6-Pack
WMSFresh (BRRkA)

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  She  (Finds: 126  Score: 552.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Just wanted to say what fun it was to go mass caching again.
Not that I didn't do any of the work to find the cache.
Thanks for the hide.

(She of SueShe)

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  Harv and Donna  (Finds: 152  Score: 707)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Found at 9:25 AM
If your going to be 1st to find a cache this was the one. Our picture is 1st in the cache camera, our entry is 1st in the log and the best part is the gift from Brogan of the beautiful Letchworth Gathering inscribed walking stick for the 1st finder. All at the picnic saw it so you know what I mean. Arrived at the picnic at about 7:30 AM. Pavilion was open but no one was there. Shortly Brogan showed up, he was caching with his girls, and then a few others started trickling in. The printouts for this special cache were on the table but no one was picking them up or heading for the cache. Just about then my Aunt Lois arrived and said lets go find it. So off we went. A little tricky at the beginning if you don’t want to do some steep climbing but we figured it out. Got to the cache area no problem but then it took me over 45 minutes of looking before finding it. Looked at the right spot many times but said no, it can’t be there but it was. Logged in took our picture with the cache camera but in our hast to find it I had left the goodie bag in the truck. And this cache was loaded to the brim! Thanks Brogan for a great challenging hide and the fantastic gift for being 1st. This will be one of my most memorable finds.
Harv & Donna (without Donna but with Aunt Lois) Donna came to the gathering later
Dansville, NY

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  The Lyndon Road Gang  (Finds: 12  Score: 53.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Two carloads went for the hunt about 2:00pm, we figured we could get it done, then back for pictures by 3:00. After a hike down the hill, we all realize we're on the wrong side of the ravine. After a couple of choice words, we hike back up the hill, then back to the picnic for a Kodak moment. About 5:30, we attempt again, I believe the carload count was about 4 for this try. Down the hill again, but what side of the ravine? After climbing back and forth across the ravine, we pick the right side. Getting close to the cache, there's a group of about 15 people who already found the cache. Made the find and joined the group to wait for the last group to find the cache. What fun we had!! Need more group caching. Huckle Buckle Beanstalk! Sue of SueShe, Steve, Matt and Jim

I found it! 05 Oct 2002 by  mrsmom  (Finds: 128  Score: 491.5)    (Hidden: 3  Score: 10)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Mr Mom, the Goo, and I teamed up with Q89 and family to find this one (and what fun we all had together!!). Passed about 25 cachers on the way up as we were going down. Found it fairly quickly around 6:50pm as it was getting dark. Did a little trading and off we went to Mossy Pine. Thanks for the great day and cache!!


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