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by Hinge Thunder
(Finds: 106  Score: 521)    (Hidden: 16  Score: 98.5)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 43° 09.508'   W 077° 37.507'
Rochester,   New York   14608
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 11 Jul 2002
Waypoint (Landmark): N002CA
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Normal
Cache size:   Normal

Difficulty: gps gps gps half gps (moderate)
Terrain: gps gps gps half gps (moderate)

Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!


Maps are queued for generation.
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Cache placed by Hinge Thunder, Rippie, & Issaquah Puppy.

A walk into Rochester history.

The coordinates listed for this cache are actually just the entrance to the subway tunnel. You can park at N43° 09.538 W77° 37.526. Follow the tunnel, keeping an eye on the columns. The columns have numbers that identify the where in the tunnel you are. The cache is located at 166. It is hidden by a loading dock door near loading bay 7-6.

Cache box is a small tupperware type container. It contains a log book, and a few printed sheets with some history about the cache location.

Due to the nature of this cache, it should NOT be done alone. You should leave a cacheplan with someone detailing where you will be. You will need a dependable flashlight/headlamp, and should bring a backup light for safety. This is a dark, secluded area, and there may be unknown people here, so be careful!!!!

Please make sure cachebox is replaced to original hiding place when you are finished with it.

Please do not mark cache as found unless you actually reached it.

Disclaimer: You are under no obligation to hunt this cache. You do so at your own risk. Like any outdoor sport, it carries the risk of unforeseenhazards. Use your best judgment with the environment and conditions. As conditions and cache locations may vary, it is the responsibility of the searcher to be familiar with the conditions in the area to be searched, to adequately prepare for those conditions, and to conduct oneself safely and responsibly and remain within his or her personal abilities and limitations. Children should be well supervised. When and if you find a cache, you are under no obligation to touch it, reach it, climb to it, dig for it, pick it up, or even open it. Open it at your own risk. Individual Geostash and GPS cache sponsors assume no liability for events, which may occur, related directly or indirectly to your searching for a stash.


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I found it! 18 Oct 2009 by  Darwin84  (Finds: 10  Score: 50.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

This was a cache that I did about a year and a half ago and it was by far one of the best ones that I have ever completed to this day! Thank you for an amazing adventure!

I found it! 30 Dec 2008 by  sagefemme  (Finds: 67  Score: 299)    (Hidden: 8  Score: 33.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Went in with Harefoot. Previous cache group made this find easy... just laying on the ground. Through log entries (on geochache.com) and subsequent email exchanges, I learned that magnets were supposed to keep this neatly out of sight, but the magnets attached themselves to the TBs I took out. Not knowing I had them, I now have to go in and do some maintenance for the owner!

I found it! 28 Oct 2006 by  Szuchie  (Finds: 146  Score: 577)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 26)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Cache find #600, and WOW what a find!
A couple of weeks ago at the “Please Don’t Squeeze the Cacher!” event cache (GCY1A5) in Central PA, a local geocacher who I have had the pleasure to meet named HolyCowboys approached me and asked if I had ever made it up to Rochester to find this cache. Admittedly I was familiar with this cache, but had never had the opportunity to seek it. So when I got home I really spent a lot of time pawing through past logs and pictures and decided that I would LOVE to do this cache with some of my closest friends, and make it find #600.

So off we went today, our rag-tag team consisting of Johmer79, Karentinks, the Nature Noggins, Chicky and myself on what would become one of the most unique caching adventures I have ever experienced. When we arrived and approached the mouth of the subway…I was just completely blown away. In the back of my head I was think, “Oh crap, what in the hell have I gotten myself into?!?”

As we entered the Subway and began our trek deep into its bowels, I was just overwhelmed with the size of tunnel and its dark never-ending abyss. It was such a unique and awesome sensation – just knowing you are under the "normal world" as you know it – while making your way to what felt like the center of the earth. It was quite an exploration for all of us. Occasionally when we came across areas where the surface light entered the tunnel, it really felt more like an old abandoned palace then a historical place of mass transit. I think what helped perpetuate this mood was the plethora of artistic drawings and murals that landscaped several stops along our route – almost like a lost civilization leaving its mark on this majestic structure.

The hike in was slow, being sure to examine each collapsed stairway or old pipe system along the way, but once to column 166, I was charged with finding the cache. Haha. Luckily for me probably ½ the team found it before I did!!! What a crew! With a great sense of accomplishment and cache find #600 was in hand – the ensuing laughter and joking could probably be heard echoing all the way down the tunnel. So for a good 20 minutes or so we explored the cache site, cracking jokes, snapping pictures...it was a very comfortable feeling, especially when you realize you are in a pitch black hole underneath the City of Rochester!

After each of our groups signed the log, Chicky and Mr. Nogg (the dynamic explorers that they are), decided to lead the charge down the subway tunnel to see what other unique and amazing areas lay waiting for us. Eventually we came to what I like to think of as the cathedral. With the sound of the Genesee River in the background, and the light and life of Rochester filling this amazing spot, we were treated to some spectacular artwork covering every square inch of this walkway. How unbelievable!

After taking pictures of our favorite pieces of art, Chicky and the Noggs pressed on while Johmer, Karentinks and I held back and just basked in the cathedral’s splendor. This was truly one of the most excellent moments I’ve ever had while geocaching. I certainly had a geo-religious experience...haha!

A huge debt of gratitude to Hinge Thunder, Rippie, & Issaquah Puppy for this wonderful adventure. As we saw the light of day, which ironically meant the end of our journey, all I could think of was how spectacular this subway was, and how wonderful it would have been to see it in all its grandeur. This has been by far one of my fondest geocaching moments yet, and to have the opportunity to share it with such great cachers as Chicky, Johmer, Karentinks and the Noggs made it even more special. It truly is the people and the places that keep me geocaching – and this was a shining example of that! Thank you again for the memories and my 600th cache find!


I found it! 30 Dec 2005 by  HuckleBuckle  (Finds: 77  Score: 273.5)    (Hidden: 67  Score: 223.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

This was an awesome cache. Had a lot of fun with the group. Lots of great people. TFTC.


I found it! 09 Apr 2005 by  mickemt  (Finds: 172  Score: 590.5)    (Hidden: 71  Score: 266)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

My 200th cache find!!! Out group caching with Goldsnoop, meriadoc2003, dave w/o id, pirate & crafty & son, & skeeterbait2.
Very interesting place, we went a bit further down the tunnel to the "bridge" where we saw some grafitti that was quite artistic.
Thanks for the great caching experience!

I found it! 14 Nov 2004 by  ScouterMark  (Finds: 60  Score: 255)    (Hidden: 9  Score: 25.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Sunday, 10:45am
Huckle Buckle! Went down with a pretty good group (see The Bill's log). What an amazing education! Had a good time.
I highly recommend wearing a dust mask if you're at all sensitive. There is almost no air flow, and whatever gets kicked up, stays up. Don't pass this cache up.

I found it! 29 Aug 2004 by  OurWoods  (Finds: 76  Score: 294.5)    (Hidden: 26  Score: 101)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Came with the group. Great cache. Thanks! This one of my all time favorites!

I found it! 29 Aug 2004 by  Blackpete  (Finds: 406  Score: 1774)    (Hidden: 19  Score: 73)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Got together with a large group to do this and a few other caches in the area. Definitely wouldn't want to do this one alone.

I found it! 18 Apr 2004 by  Lupin  (Finds: 12  Score: 48.5)    (Hidden: 2  Score: 6.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

What a cool find! We've had our eyes on this one for a while now but waited for some warmer weather before we tried it out. On the way in we passed some graffiti artists doing their thing on the Broad St. bridge. Very creative stuff. Before we got two much farther we met up with another group of adventurers looking for company, so we all headed off into the hole together. With eight people and one dog we figured we were ready for anything. Logbook is in good shape in new hiding spot. We'll be heading down there again!

Note: The logbook was moved from the hiding place described. See the March 30, '04 entry by Brogan on gecaching.com for a description of where the log is now.

I found it! 16 Jun 2003 by  dzgametec  (Finds: 7  Score: 39.5)    (Hidden: 1  Score: 5.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Cool beans - drove all the way inside with the truck this time - Amy went right to it :) Had a 1.5 million candlepower light instead of the penlight we used last time. Nice hide - lots of history and fun - just be careful of others. We were harassed by a 14 year old who told us "kids" we better watch out down here.

I found it! 14 Jun 2003 by  TeamHO2  (Finds: 17  Score: 70.5)    (Hidden: 2  Score: 7)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

This is the first find for Team HO2. We stumbled onto this site accidentally when looking for maps of the old subway system. This is a cool sport. We're gunna have to find more caches. We only saw one homeless dude and 2 people in their birthday suits. We took nothing and left a glow stick(kinda old, no guarantees on functionality) in case your flashlight dies. The Pex dispenser was a funny sight after all that gloomy dismal walking.
Team HO

I couldn 10 Jun 2003 by  dzgametec  (Finds: 7  Score: 39.5)    (Hidden: 1  Score: 5.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Man o man was this spooky! Took my girlfriend down there, and I must say... BRING LOTS OF BIG BIG LIGHTS!!! And a gun if you have one...

We only had a keychain light and it looked like the Blair Witch Project! We couldnt find the cache, but it looks like some kids have made the cache area their home for paintball wars. We are going back better prepared to look again.

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I found it! 31 Aug 2002 by  SueShe  (Finds: 54  Score: 226)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Didja ever see the part of Ghostbusters when they were down in the deserted subway? That's all I kept thinking about...looking for the river of goo and listening for the ghost train!! Make sure you bring good flashlights and make sure the batteries are fresh, if they die, all we can say is Lotsa Luck! We will admit, if it weren't for caching, the venture would never have happened. Took nothing, left nothing. Next time I'm watching Ghostbusters...I'll remember this cache!

I found it! 31 Aug 2002 by  WMSFresh  (Finds: 140  Score: 612)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 24.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Wow... don't ever want to go in there again. DARK! But, we 3 women found it at 12:35PM (went w/ SueShe). Only saw 2 homeless men near entrance, I'm glad no more were in there. Get me back to Fairport!

Thanks for the experience.

The Peppermill 6-Pack Mom
WMSFresh (R)

I found it! 24 Aug 2002 by  Broncoholics  (Finds: 93  Score: 444)    (Hidden: 15  Score: 58.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

My wife Candie is quite angry with me now. I told her I was taking Casey and Chi (our dog) caching today but not to this one. A while ago when this cache was placed, we both agreed this one wasn't suitable for children, and not to put any of us in a precarious situation. Anyways, I got to thinking; after reading some of the other logs I decided that this one could be fun, daring, and adventurous. I was right, it was all that and then some. After Casey held the flashlight and my hand the whole way, he was the one who spotted the cache.
So I lifted him up to grab it. We signed the log, took nothing, and left an Olandis Gary (rookie) NFL trading card.
When we got home Casey started bragging about how he can find any cache don't matter how tough or hard it is. That's when mom found out. Now I am in the dog house. I told her it wasn't that bad. We didn't even see one person or come across any real danger.

Thanks for the hide!

Duane from

I found it! 15 Jul 2002 by  Shilfiell  (Finds: 82  Score: 353)    (Hidden: 3  Score: 6)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

One of my favorite places to explore! We had to go down there anyway and were planning the trip the day we saw the cache posted. We took the easier way in (one short jump, even I can handle that!) but walked out through the entrance you listed. No problem finding the cache, read the material, and left behind a CD that I hope gets to another history buff - a few movies in DiVX format,. including my favorite Rochester, City of Quality circa 1963. Walked over to Upper Falls from the exit and spent some pleasant time in the city. Thanks for a fabulous cache and a great idea! (I saw this one listed here first and made a disc to place in the cache, so letterbox or not I left it! Hope it gets to the very creative cache owners. Anyone can borrow it to make a copy if desired. )

-shilfiell and kris

[Modified 2002-07-15 20:46:51] by Admin

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I found it! 14 Jul 2002 by  AnLashok  (Finds: 12  Score: 67)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Well, we were waiting for this one based on a promise made by Hinge and Rippie last week.
Once I had the time, I pounced! Happily to find that it was hidden in a place where I have spent A LOT of time over the last few years - as a matter of fact, we didn't even take the GPSR along with us on this one.
From an old High School cheer, We're number one. Couldn't be prouder. If you don't believe us, we'll shout a little louder! Check out the team punch when you log in.
To those who come after me - use all your skills and senses.
Thanks for the cache guys, you always work hard to give us good ones.

Oh yeah - to Rippie: Huckle Buckle Beanstalk Bubba!!!!!!!


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