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by Vargseld
(Finds: 0  Score: 0)    (Hidden: 2  Score: 11)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 42° 07.224'   W 075° 56.133'
Binghamton,   New York   13905
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 26 Mar 2005
Waypoint (Landmark): N01880
Open Cache:  Unrestricted
Cache type:  Normal
Cache size:   Normal

Difficulty: gps gps gps gps gps (hard)
Terrain: gps half gps (easy)



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Parking Lat: 42.07.179 Long: 75.56.108

This cache was turned down by geocaching.com for not being family friendly. I for one do not think geocaching should cater to children, so I'm listing it here. Also, they had issues with the legal aspects of this cache. I still believe that there is nothing illegal about this cache. The only problem would be posessing "burglery tools". I don't think a paperclip qualifies as a burglery tool.


An easy to get to/find, yet quite hard to log cache hidden in the outskirts of Glenwood Cemetery. Special skills are required. As far as I know this is another original idea, but of course I could be wrong. You may find yourself muttering the name of this cache frequently.


I got the idea for this cache from one that I found up in Rochester. That cache was locked with a padlock, and the key to it was a travel bug. Well, that wasn't sadistic enough for me, so I now offer the geocaching world this cache.

You'll be looking for a 30 cal ammo box that is locked with a Master padlock. However, you wont be seeing the key to it floating around anywhere. This is where the special skills come in. Yup, you guessed it, it's lock picking time! If I can learn how to do it, anyone can. All that I ask is that you practice/learn on your own lock, and not mine. It'd be a real pain if someone breaks a paperclip or something inside the cache lock and renders it unopenable. I bought the lock I used at Walmart for about $5.50, so if you want to buy one to practice on you know where to find one. Also, don't tamper with the ammo box. If you break it to open the cache without picking the lock you'll be sorry!

The cache is easy to find and get to. It's also in a spot where you'll be pretty much alone with no non-cachers passing by, since you might be sitting there for a while. There are a few posted signs in the area (though none near the cache), but they're for Glenwood Dev. and are marking the cemetery.

There are plenty of good websites about lock picking that you can consult, as well as numerous books on the subject. However, from what I can tell, according to the law, "burglary tools" are illegal to possess in New York. Luckily a paperclip, books and websites are not illegal.

But that's not it! There are 3 ways in total you could log this cache. First is to pick the lock. Another option is to wait for me to hold a "mini event" where I'll meet cachers at the cache and unlock it for them. Don't get too excited, though. This might happen once a year (if that), and at a very odd hour with hardly any prior notice. The final way is to bribe me. :P Let's just say your best bet is picking the lock.

Finally, to prove that you really found the cache I've drawn a little something inside the ammo box that you must email me the identity of.

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  • In brush on a small bank 


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Note 19 Apr 2005 by  Team Proline  (Finds: 0  Score: 0)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

This cache took me longer to lock it back up than to open it. I was armed with the knowledge to pick the lock, but only needed the skills to close it. The previous cacher, may I say Wheelygood?, did not lock it properly. I took the pink whistle and left a red rose and party streamers.

Team Proline

Note 11 Apr 2005 by  Vargseld  (Finds: 0  Score: 0)    (Hidden: 2  Score: 11)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Thank you, that looks like a new whistle to blow... I mean add to my collection.

I found it! 11 Apr 2005 by  Wheelygood  (Finds: 103  Score: 582)    (Hidden: 21  Score: 92)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

You say there are 3 ways in total you could log this cache. I would like to add another way; bolt cutters, they make quick work of pad locks.

Took nothing, left you know what and placed your intact lock back on.

P.S. Smile

  cameraI'm sure you'll find some reason to DQ it

I found it! 02 Apr 2005 by  EmTeeNesters  (Finds: 1  Score: 6.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
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This was a cool and innovative idea. Even though it was raining, we still went out and located it easily. But opening it was another story... ;) Thank goodness, one of us has some skills from the past. Took the Jeep TB, left a copper ball and a "special" stapler (it'll shock your friends to see this one). Put the intact cache back as we found it, even if we thought a bit dastardly for awhile. ;)

Vargseld, your bike is no longer safe from us! ;)
Thanks for the neat idea and the challenge!

Note 31 Mar 2005 by  Vargseld  (Finds: 0  Score: 0)    (Hidden: 2  Score: 11)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

There is a yellow Jeep TB in this cache.


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