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Virginia Beach, Virginia 23459 United States Near By Caches
Hidden On: 04 Apr 2002
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NOTICE: This is a Multi waypoint cache...The first waypoint is not the actual cache. You will need to read everything here in order to get the coordinates and code needed to get you to Houdini.
I have always liked the mystery behind the worlds most famous Magician and escape artist, so I decided to make a cache based on "Houdini". You will need to do some math from the first waypoint in order to get to the actual cache so I would say bringing paper, Pen/Pencil, and maybe a calculator along on this hunt may be a good idea. If you follow each of my steps you should have little problem in finding the prize. The Cache container is a well painted .50cal ammo can filled with some very expensive items along with some for the kids in your group. I ask that if you take an item that you replace it with one of same value or please pass on taking anything at all. I want to keep this cache very interesting to those that find it. I have also placed a "Single use camera" inside the container that I would like each cacher or group to take a picture so that I can add those to the website when camera is full. I can't express enough how important it is that you read everything here and do exactly as asked! Now, here we go... The starting coordinate submitted with this cache page will take you to a "Red" sign with 11 "white" letters. You will use convert these letters on the sign to get the coordinates for the actual cache. Each letter of the Alphabet equals a number value. For instance, lets say letter "A" = 1 then letter "B" would equal 2 and "C" would equal 3 and so on. Your starting Latitude is N36 54.842, go to the coordinates listed at the top of this page to get to the red sign. Using the letters on the sign do the following... Take the 8th letters number value and multiply it by 10, Place your answer here ______ Take the number value of the 7th letter and place it's value here ______ Now take the number value of the 1st letter of the sign and place it's value here ______ ADD all three of your answers together and place it here ________ Take that Answer and SUBTRACT it from the LAST three digits of your starting Latitude and this will be your new Latitude of the actual Cache. ANSWER:_______________________ Now to get the new Longitude take the number value of the 6th letter on the sign and MULTIPLY it by 12 ANSWER: ________ Take the number value of the 10th letter and MULTIPLY it by 2 ANSWER:________ Take the number value of the 3rd letter and ADD 1 to it ANSWER:_______ Take all three of your answers above and ADD them together, once you have that total SUBTRACT it from the LAST three digits of your starting Longitude and this will be your new Longitude for the actual cache, write your new Longitude here ANSWER:____________________ So now you should have a new set of coordinates that will take you to the cache but you will need more than that to get "HOUDINI". Like I stated above, there are "11" letters on this sign, now take the number value for EACH letter on that sign and add them all together... ANSWER:________ Now take the total you came up with and add 4019 to it and write it here ANSWER:__________ IMPORTANT: You will need the four digit code you just came up with in order to find "HOUDINI", so take it with you to your new coordinate and the truth shall be known! If any of your answers takes you farther than a 1/2 mile from your starting coordinate then you did something wrong and should go over all your answers. This park is a very beautiful and well maintained area. While placing this cache I picked up several bottles and cans I found along the trails, I ask that if you see any that you please do the same. The parks people were kind enough to give Geocaching a try so lets not abuse this gift. If you see any trail damage being done as a result of this cache, PLEASE contact me quickly and it will be removed. This park offers a "Trail adoption" program and if any of you are interested this would be a nice way to say thank you to the parks people for allowing us to enjoy the sport. There is no need to bushwack to this cache and I ask that you please do not do so while taking in this adventure. The cache is placed just off the "Long creek trail" with the orange marker. Inform people where you are before caching, and make sure you watch out for the wild life in the area. A camera would make a great addition to this trip and be sure to read all of the park rules before you start. Good luck and HOUDINI is waiting!! |
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24 Sept 2006 by
QOCMike
(Finds: 22 Score: 73)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only I was the first finder of this cache since April 2004, according to the log book. Me and my nephew made the hike out to it. Both latches had rusted shut, so I had to beat the cache with a big stick to open them. A few items inside were fouled with rust, so I trashed those out. The camera had 12 exposures left. TFTC.
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04 Apr 2005 by
rsq14emt
(Finds: 3 Score: 11)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Non-commercial use only
Had a nice bike, then hike in the park. Found the red sign with 11 letters. I converted all the letters as directed, made my calculations (three times until I got the correct answers) and still could not find it. I found several places where it could have been, but alas, not to be found. I found several "fallen old friends" (trees I assume), but nothing really jumped out. I lost my good orienteering compass while picking up someone else's trash on the way to the vicinity. I will try again on another day. Thank God for daylight savings time. It gave me an extra hour of daylight in the park.
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02 Jan 2004 by
Beaconbabe
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only
What a nice & busy park this was. We made a miscalculation & had to start over but that was okay since we got to see more of the trails that way.
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02 Jan 2004 by
PA Ladi
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only After correcting my bad calculations and finding some creative ways to get across water logged areas Beaconbabe and I found this. Had a great time exploring the park on a very nice winter day. Thanks for the adventure.
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24 Aug 2003 by
Crazy Cache
(Finds: 14 Score: 44.5)  
(Hidden: 4 Score: 14.5)
Open Log: Personal use only
Yeah!!! Crazy Cache solved the Houdini mystery! After an hour of looking for it our GPS said it was smack in the middle of the Creek...We followed the trail thought it might make some sharp turns to get us back on course. Finally came back to our closest spot and redid some calculations! Realized we subtracted from the wrong number! Within 30 minutes my niece (who was on her first geocache adventure!) spotted the cache! This was a fun adventure. We really liked the multi-part of this cache...We took a carabiner, multifunction tool and batteries (our GPS died as soon as we found the cache!). We left a Where's George $, a pocket magnifying glass and a zipper pull compass. Cache was damp inside but log book was dry. Thanks Quinn and Navicache for posting this on the Hampton Roads Group at Yahoo:
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05 Aug 2003 by
Ken345
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only Hooray, we found it. We went back to this wonderful park to give it another try. With what we learned about the park the first time it was quite easy to get to the area of the cache. I think the temperature and humidity were higher but other than that it was a very nice day for a walk in the woods. The coordinates we calculated from the clues were not at the spot we found the cache, but using basic map skills they allowed us to find our target. I will send an E-mail to Quinn with the location where we found it and see if there is a problem with our math that we somehow missed. The cache was not too difficult to find once you are at the right spot and my son loved finally finding this "Treasure". The inside of the cache was a little damp, I think it has been leaking during all the recent rain, but the log book was dry in it's zip lock bag. Jonathan took the "Parachute guy" and left two packs of pencils. We'll see you on the trails.
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02 Aug 2003 by
Ken345
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only First of all we would like to thank Quinn for taking us to a great park. We were surprised to find the $4.00 entrance fee to this park, but the park is worth it. The map they give you when you come in leaves a lot to be desired and we wound up going the round about way to the sign. Perhaps we need to update their map. In this park it's easy to think you are heading the right direction only to find water between you and where you want to be. We had fun doing the math and figuring out the second set of coordinates and lo and behold it was within the range stated in the description. At this point I would suggest you truely read all the clues given since you are likely to go way out of your way if you don't. We know this because we missed some important information, wound up .12 miles from the correct spot only to be met with water between us and it. Reading everything could have saved us much walking. We got to the place we figured we should be, and even with an extended search for about an hour, we couldn't find the cache. We will look again another weekend, since we hate for so much effort to go into not finding it. This is the first one we couldn't find.
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25 Jul 2003 by
JK_n_VA
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only The mosquitos almost carried me off as I neared the cache early this morning. I had jogged over yesterday to get the first clue, went back today after having a dry place to do some much needed math. Had to do a little field repair on site, I was a bit too vicious opening it and almost needed some magnifying glasses to help reassemble. In the end, no problem, just a few bites. Cache was slightly damp inside, but the logbook was dry. Very well stocked, left a couple of Jamestown Quarters and an Army Pin. Took a mini-biner and two AAs that probably would have increased my GPSR reception and eased my hunt. This is a great cache. thanks. JK-n-VA
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16 Mar 2003 by
Raiders of the lost cache
(Finds: 2 Score: 12)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only Found it!! But only on our 2nd attempt.We made a math mistake on the first try.It was a rainy Sunday,but we were determined to do or die.As it turned out,we found the cache only a couple of yards from where we searched the first time!!Traded a Skoal multi-function knife for the insulated mug and decided the take the Speed Bug travel bug for a quick spin around the area.My hat is off to Quinn for the most challenging cache yet.THANKS!!
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30 Jan 2003 by
PC Medic
(Finds: 3 Score: 15)  
(Hidden: 2 Score: 8)
Open Log: Personal use only
Found it Quinn!!
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27 Sept 2002 by
Geo G
(Finds: 64 Score: 319)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only
Well, we followed the Mighty Quinn all the way to Virginia Beach, and it was worth it. This park is a real treasure, and some of the areas remind you of the deep south bayou country. We found the first waypoint with no trouble, and even got the math right for the second one. Not too much trouble locating it, but we sure had fun solving the puzzle. Left the Speed Bug travel bug, and swapped an emergency poncho for the Where's George stamp certificate. This should be easy, since we plan on being at the Letchworth Fall Cacher's gathering. You won't even have to mail it! Great hide, and a real terrific hiking area. We didn't even mind too much when it started raining. See you at Letchworth Quinn, thanks for the adventure.
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27 Sept 2002 by
avalanchefan21
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only Outstanding find, well hidden and awesome challenge. Cache was in good condition, no litter around the area! GPS kept losing track so I had to use our compass and voila it was right in front of me. Took the flashlight and left behind a multitool knife w/ pouch.
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27 Sept 2002 by
Diablo803
(Finds: 4 Score: 19.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only This one was fun! It took my husband and I a while to find it. Of course, it might have helped if my math had been a bit more accurate! Guess I need to brush up on my addition and subtraction. This one was the hardest one we've done so far, as far as hiding spots since our GPS wouldn't work well in the foliage. Took an emergency blanket and left a metal spill proof cup. Good cache!
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17 Aug 2002 by
Kentucky_Navy
(Finds: 6 Score: 29.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only Found the cache on my second attempt. If I had followed the instructions I would have found it the first time. Cache was in great shape. Took the glow stick and laynard. Left an emergency blanket,swiss type knife and 2 beaners.
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20 Jul 2002 by
Kentucky_Navy
(Finds: 6 Score: 29.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only
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20 Jul 2002 by
Kentucky_Navy
(Finds: 6 Score: 29.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only
Spent 2 hours looking around and only found a large snake.
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27 May 2002 by
cacheKidds
(Finds: 18 Score: 64.5)  
(Hidden: 14 Score: 58.5)
Open Log: Personal use only
Success at last!! We walked by this spot many, many times but didn't get it before. I think the "no bushwhacking" threw us off a bit - we didn't think it would be off the trail that far. Anyway, we finally made it. We took picture #23, I think. We left Money 2000 and a zippo, took the wheresgeorge.com dollar and stamp.
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25 May 2002 by
Quinn
(Finds: 75 Score: 376)  
(Hidden: 34 Score: 132.5)
Open Log: Personal use only Cache has been confirmed still in place and in great condition. To the last poser... you are correct with the sign you have and the coordinates you sent me were also correct. Maybe the reception of the area has flipped you a bit... try again?
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11 May 2002 by
cacheKidds
(Finds: 18 Score: 64.5)  
(Hidden: 14 Score: 58.5)
Open Log: Personal use only
We surrender!!!! We have gone TWICE to find this one and no dice. We think we have the correct sign but our new coordinates didn't take us anywhere near the sign in the picture (which we did see today coming back from another cache).
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06 May 2002 by
Geo Leo
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only
We really enjoyed this cache. My 10 yr old son loved converting the letters and doing all of the math to find the final coordinates as well as the 4 digit code. Just when I thought I had been everywhere there was to go in this park, you managed to find a spot that I haven't been to. Great location, great hiding spot, and great idea using the decoded coordinates.
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06 Apr 2002 by
Sea_Dog
(Finds: 1 Score: 5.5)  
(Hidden: 1 Score: 3.5)
Open Log: Personal use only Sea Dog and the Scoundrelettes found this cache first around 2:30 pm on a cool April afternoon. Actually it was much cooler at home so we were way overdressed. Once we got hiking in the woods, sheltered from the wind, we started shedding our outer layers. Loved the clues to this cache! We spend a lot of time in this park so I should have known what sign you were talking about before we even got there. The girls had a nice picnic while I figured out the new coords. Found the cache with no problems. As soon as we opened it we could tell there were mints inside. Fortunately we had appropriate trade items with us to trade all the food items out of the cache. I brought along mostly expensive items after reading the cache description. Thanks for a great cache in our favorite park! Mark, Allison, Michelle, and Katie
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