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Graveyard Grumble Part 2 of 2

by GPS FOOL (Finds: 0 Score: 0) (Hidden: 3 Score: 15)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 43° 08.081' W 077° 36.938'
This may not be the actual cache coordinate.

Rochester, New York 14620
United States Near By Caches

Hidden On: 19 May 2001
Waypoint (Landmark): N0013C
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Multi-Part
Cache size:   Normal

Difficulty: (moderate)
Terrain: (moderate)

Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!

Comments:

Additional maps for this cache available at:

This is part 2 of a 2 part cache. If you haven't been to part one yet please use this link to get therePart one of this two part Cache

A continuation from Part 1. Note; do not start this part of the hunt using the waypoint described in the web page, it's the same starting point as part 1. I listed the two parts this way so as to keep them close to one another on the web page.

Before proceeding, be sure you have completed all steps in part 1. Now, onto waypoint 4…

The fourth waypoint

I'll give you the whole number portion of the degrees of Lat & Long for this waypoint, however, you have to figure out the rest. Lat is N43 and Lon is W77. Ok, now you have to find the fractional portion of Lat & Lon. We have coordinated N43 WW.XXX by W77 YY ZZZ. Now manipulate the data recorded from previous waypoint visits to discover the remainder of this waypoint coordinates.

Subtract 2 from the month Louisa died. Place a leading zero in front of the single digit result. This is WW.

Subtract 1099 form the year in which Anna passed. This is number XXX

Add 8 to the age of Louisa at her death. This is YY

Subtract 1809 from the birth year of Ms. Anthony. Place a zero in front of the two-digit result for ZZZ.

You now have waypoint four, record it here:

Once you get to waypoint four record the following:

A. The inskription written at the base of the statue, a three word phrase

B. The birthplace of Edmund, located on a nearby monument

The fifth waypoint

From waypoint four you recorded a three-word phrase from the base of a statue. Line up the words left to right, as you would read them, however, do not place a space between the words. It will look something like AAAAABBCCCCC. Substitute the correct words for the letters here in my example.

Now for some substitution, Let A=1, B=2, C=3...Z=26. Substitute the numeric value for each letter in the three-word phrase. You will have a 16-digit number.

Subtract 716748248427591 from your 16-digit number. You will get a 15-digit result that represents the Lat & Long coordinates for waypoint Five. The format is Latitude Ndd mm.mmm by Wdd mm.mmm You now have the coordinates for the fifth waypoint.

Record waypoint five here:

Once you get to waypoint 5 (it's tall) you will notice an object 11 paces away towards the north. On this object there is a dedication which is held in place with star shaped rivets. How may star shaped rivets are there?

Number of Rivets:

Position yourself so you're directly in front of the dedication, so you can read it. Look for a row of gravestones to your right, a few feet away. This row of gravestones will be used to calculate the final waypoint to the cache.

Actually there are several rows of gravestones adjacent to the object! To distinguish the correct row you will need the birthplace of Edmund, which was found at waypoint four plus the number of rivets located on the dedication you just found.

By shifting the letters of a word you can change it around. As an example, Increase the letter A by 3 places you get D.

Take Edmund's birthplace location from waypoint four. This is a seven-letter word.

Increase the 1st letter by 1 place=

Increase the 2nd letter by 3 places=

Decrease the 3rd letter by 3 places=

Increase the 4th letter by 12 places=

Decrease the 5th letter by 3 places=

Decrease the 6th letter by 13 places=

Increase the 7th letter by 15 places=

This new word is the owner of the gravestone you're looking for.

Record the name here:

Surprise, there are many gravestones in this area with that specific name! Remember the number of star shaped rivets on the dedication? This value represents the number of gravestones into the correct row you must walk to find the letter-transferred word you discovered above. Walk into the rows, counting gravestones from left-to-right as you go. Walk into the rows only as far as the number of rivets on the dedication. Find the matching name, the correct number of stones into the row, and you've discovered the correct row! This row will be used to calculate the final set of coordinates that will take you to the geocache.

Go to the first gravestone in the correct row (left most). Record the death date in the following format: MMDDYYYY. Now go to the last gravestone in the row and record the death date from this gravestone (use same format).

Record information here

First grave, death date (MMDDYYYY):

Last gravestone, death date (MMDDYYYY): The coordinates are in the format Lat N AA AA.AAA by Lon W BB BB.BBB

Subtract 1964031 from the death date of the first gravestone in the row. The result is Latitude, in format AA AA.AAA

Record Latitude here:

Add 6625192 to the last gravestone death date. The result is Longitude, in format BB BB.BBB.

Record Longitude here:

Now onto the geocache, it's a .50 Cal Ammo can painted green with the words Geo-Cache stenciled on the sides. It's mostly covered by leaves, although if you're on top of it you can spot it.

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CACHE LOGS - May contain hints(spoilers)! decode

18 Oct 2009 by Darwin84 (Finds: 10 Score: 50.5) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

It was a very long walk, but luckily a beautiful day! Thank you for a very fun cache

28 Nov 2008 by sagefemme (Finds: 33 Score: 160) (Hidden: 8 Score: 33.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

Logged this find in geocashing.com.. didn't knoe it was cross-listed. Nice adventure in Mt Hope Cemetary.

27 Jul 2008 by bullroy (Finds: 5 Score: 24) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

This was a very interesting and fun cache. We had perfect weather and even enjoyed the Thunderbirds at the Rochester Air show! Lots of neat history and my hat is off to the creator of this trek. We actually made some errors and won’t give the details how but they were with regards to several options available as possible answers (and it was not in the number of rivets area!). There were lots of people out and many stopped and asked us for specific graves sites (unrelated to the cache) and when they asked what we were doing we explained and they seemed to have gotten the bug. Speaking of bug… we took the “Old Salt” travel bug and plan on relocating him very soon in a southern state. We left all kinds of goodies as well. The funny thing about the cache was we knew we were close and my girlfriend was getting anxious. As we walked around the VERY close area she paused and leaned on a headstone and asked the graver where the cache was. She immediately turned and looked toward a spot and sure enough she saw it exposed slightly through the leaves! This truly was a fun cache and we will always remember the helping spirit and great day spent searching outdoors!
[Modified 2008-07-28 13:36:54]

29 Jul 2007 by Sophstar (Finds: 1 Score: 6) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Unrestricted

Great hunt, I liked the fact that it was multi-leg. Me and Wetfoot found it without too much trouble. Our second cache

30 Nov 2005 by motionsmiley (Finds: 71 Score: 338) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

Smiley actually added and subtracted right. Amazing. She found the final right off. Thanks for the tour around this amazing cemetery.

28 Apr 2005 by car2 (Finds: 43 Score: 156) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Unrestricted

We found this one back on 7/19/04 but I forgot to log it on this site. This was one of the first caches that we wanted to do but we had to wait until we could find a day that we could all go.

10 Jul 2003 by owler (Finds: 27 Score: 125.5) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

Done at last!

very nice cache idea for sure. I would like to se more of these.

People all over the roadways enjoying the area and cooler weather.

Log Book is filling nicely.

Great job!

06 Jul 2003 by ScouterMark (Finds: 60 Score: 255) (Hidden: 9 Score: 25.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

This was really a lot of fun to do. There should be more like this. Thanx to Quinn for bringing this one to my attention. It was a beautiful sunny Sunday to go caching around the cemetery. GPSFool did a great job!
Took 2 WG's to pass along, left a gray/black ringer t-shirt.

M.& E. of M.E.G.S.A.

19 Mar 2003 by cenobite07 (Finds: 82 Score: 384) (Hidden: 6 Score: 35.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

Now I know why I missed it last month - it was under two and a half feet of snow and ice.

Today the snow had melted so just the top of the box was revealed. Something inside smells really bad but I couldn't tell what is was.

I took nothing and left a pair of gloves in case it gets cold again.

Thanks for the fun hide!

21 Feb 2003 by cenobite07 (Finds: 82 Score: 384) (Hidden: 6 Score: 35.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

This was my fifth cache of the day and I solved all the clues and arrived at the final coords right at closing time.

I poked around a minute or two with no luck and had to run to get out before the gates closed.

All in all, this was a great cache and a great workout in the snow!

I'll be back as soon as the ice melts again...!

29 Dec 2002 by Geo G (Finds: 64 Score: 319) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

This was one of the best caches we've done. We enjoyed seeing all the Rochester history, and my 5 year old grandson was great at finding the clues. He never complained once about having to wait for the final cache, even though we had to trudge through some pretty deep snow. His dad was the one who found the cache in the end (His first). Great adventure... Thanks.

01 Sept 2002 by TheHikers (Finds: 27 Score: 125.5) (Hidden: 3 Score: 17.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

Got it. This was a lot of fun! We saw some things that we'd never noticed (or at least paid any attention to) before, and the weather was wonderful. Total distance was 3.6 miles, and it took about 2 hours.

The only problem we had was that the cache site was engulfed by a very vigorous crop of poison ivy (see photo)! A good name now for this location would be "Poison Ivy Paradise." It took longer than usual to locate the box because we didn't dare wade into the ivy and tromp around. When we did finally spot it, there was no clear approach so we didn't go in to get it. Grumble, grumble, grumble! We may go back in the winter and check out the "high quality" stuff (we'll bring something from the 2-dollar store to put in the box).

Does anyone know the history of what's on top of Anna's resting place? We speculated that it was something she really liked, and she wanted to be near it forever, but we don't really know.

We also chatted with a woman who asked what the GPS was, so we told her and she's now all excited about geocaching. Who knows, maybe some day we'll hunt for one of her caches.

Photo 1

14 Jul 2002 by WMSFresh (Finds: 139 Score: 609) (Hidden: 5 Score: 24.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

What a great time we had w/ this one. Had Sue (half of SueShe) along w/ us. Was alot of fun doing a multiple clue cache. Hope to more like it. Was very interesting reading the gravestones as we were walking by. Took us 2 hours to complete.
Took a Matchbox car for transferring to another cache, left a Where's George Dollar and a lei.
Thanks for the fun day!

The Peppermill 6-Pack
(WMSFresh)
BR+S

Where to next?

05 Jul 2002 by freediver (Finds: 7 Score: 28.5) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

A great place to go for a multi-cach. Took a fried with me, it was her first cach and she is now hooked on caching. I saw parts of Mt Hope I had not seen before. Found the cach - took Bernie left a couple of Kodak Olympic pins.

Anthony's Grave
Cach Contents

09 Jun 2002 by AnLashok (Finds: 12 Score: 67) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

Great day out! My mom (Nuna) was with us, and it took roughly 3 hours to run the whole thing - what slowed us up was me recovering from surgery, and walking slow. Amazing part was that even though I grew up in California, I found ancestors at rest in the cemetery. Obviously a lot of work went into this cache, and for that our team salutes you! We started a travel bug in this cache - it is Grand Slam, and wants to get to the Weed, CA area (hopefully in time for us to pick it up on vacation) where it can be recovered by Nuna and resent on its way around the bases again. Took the maroon kerchief for the girls.

25 May 2002 by Adventuring Lovers (Finds: 33 Score: 158) (Hidden: 1 Score: 4)
Open Log: Personal use only

See our detailed comments under GG Part 1. Great hunt!! Loved figuring out the clues too...it was a very fun trip! Thanks!!!!!!!!

11 May 2002 by She (Finds: 126 Score: 552.5) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

Logging in missing logs...Had a great day...Wonderful tour around the cemetery. Took nothing; left nothing.
Thanks for the hide.

She of SueShe

23 Apr 2002 by 4JohnDoe (Finds: 6 Score: 40.5) (Hidden: 0 Score: 0)
Open Log: Personal use only

we finished this today,good walk about.took g-dollar ,leftg-dollar.thanks 4johndoe

17 Apr 2002 by fourpack (Finds: 68 Score: 352.5) (Hidden: 10 Score: 52)
Open Log: Personal use only

FOUND IT ,finally this is a good one, got sun burned ,thats ok love the hunt the hole famliy was in on this one.my four nephews (they go by +1,+2,+3,+4,+5).my group allso ,so from fourpack and the rest, thanks.took g- dollar- belt buckle-candy-tape measure.left,blue verizon face cover for a phone(20.00 dollar value)lead Italian crystal small candy dish,and a g- dollar. fourpack

31 Mar 2002 by Junglehair (Finds: 23 Score: 117.5) (Hidden: 18 Score: 69)
Open Log: Personal use only

logged this one at http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=2654

22 Feb 2002 by Blackpete (Finds: 406 Score: 1774) (Hidden: 19 Score: 73)
Open Log: Personal use only

Enjoyed this one. Wish there were more parts. Took nothing, left nothing.

19 Oct 2001 by Hinge Thunder (Finds: 106 Score: 521) (Hidden: 16 Score: 98.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

The first part went fast, but the second half was much slower. I made several mistakes in my arithmetic that threw me off by 500 feet in one case, and 100 feet in another. I did manage to finish both parts in about an hour. ALOT OF WORK! WOW!

16 Jun 2001 by Delta Team (Finds: 58 Score: 277.5) (Hidden: 5 Score: 22)
Open Log: Personal use only

We teamed up with Gamma and Coyote. THey had a newcomer with tem, Hero was the name.. With our efforts focused on the goal, we strived to reach the Cache... We had a success and did a trade, flash signal lights for SimCity computer game...
We logged in our visit and took a PIX. The heads up on the Skeeters is a true one. They are hungry.;) Delta Team

27 May 2001 by Caron (Finds: 73 Score: 350) (Hidden: 2 Score: 6)
Open Log: Personal use only

Started this Cache last week and came back today to finish it up with Daughter (Debbie) and her husband (Glen).
Great idea for a multi waypoint cache. We all had a good time and what a nice way to spend part of the day.
Signed the logbook and traded a couple Items and took our pictures. Cache was replaced as found. Thanks again!

20 May 2001 by Quinn (Finds: 75 Score: 376) (Hidden: 34 Score: 132.5)
Open Log: Personal use only

A great hunt and a very great end to my day.
I was sure that I had a good jump on the rest of the pack as far as getting to, and going after this cache. I was partly correct. I got there first and was well on my way, then my brain came to a complete halt and that was that. I ran into Yardboy and will most likely have nightmares for the rest of my life when I think back to outfit he was wearing...j/k we talked a bit and did some minor figuring on the first waypoint, then we went our seperate ways. He found the cache first and I was a second later in the day. I agree that if you decide to take one of the many great gifts from within this cache, please be sure to replace it with another of same value. I took a wheres George dollar and replaced it with another. I then took the cd set of the Radio Mystery Theatre to make a copy for myself and then plan to replace in same cache on 5/27/01. I also added 10 more dollars to the cache as well as tons of keychains and trinkets for the youngsters if they come along with you. I took my pix with the camera and signed the logbook. No matter how many more of you find this cache I will always know that Yardboy and me did it the hard way...hehehe!
Great fun! I rate it a 11 out of a scale of 10.
If you go after this cache and wish to print out the complete part 1 and part2 as they are shown together, go to www.navicache.com and look for this cache on the main page of the site, you can print it all out there!