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by Road Kill
(Finds: 54  Score: 244.5)    (Hidden: 11  Score: 55)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 42° 13.742'   W 077° 37.521'
Canisteo,   New York   14823
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 12 Jan 2002
Waypoint (Landmark): N0010F
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Normal
Cache size:   Normal

Difficulty: gps half gps (easy)
Terrain: gps gps gps gps half gps (hard)

Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is a challenge. No fees!


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This cache is located on private land and is surrounded by private land. There is only one route to avoid the private land of others and I (Road Kill) ask that you use no other route. I also ask that you respect my land as you would your own and adhere to a few other restrictions listed below.

The Route:
Parking: Park near “FCPARK” N 42° 13.972 W 077° 38.045. This is the end of the driveway but do not use it, block it or even attempt to turn around in it. There is ample shoulder (except after big snow storms) so make the effort to get the car off the road.
Necessary waypoint: Head south to “FCTURN” N 42° 13.85 W 077° 38.05 before making the turn East-South-East to the cache. The driveway will lead you down a hill, across a creek and up the other side into ancient Fawcowee Indian land and the above waypoint. From here you can beeline to the cache if you feel inclined.

The Challenge:
1) The creek “Fall Creek”: I can only say the above route offers the best creek crossing. Generally dried up and with no more than 3” to 8” of water under normal conditions, springtime can produce 3 to 4 storms that make it impassable for a week or so. For more than 50% of the year plan on getting your feet wet. Take extra shoes & socks as a precaution.
2) The distance: 0.6 miles (from car to waypoint to cache) as the crow flies. The good news is there are walking trails all the way to the cache. If you stay on the trails it is nearly a mile one way.
3) The Incline: my words “From here you can beeline to the cache if you feel inclined” were an intended pun. Nearly 500 feet elevation change from creek to cache, this walk can get the heart pumping. Trails can be steep in spots and off trail can be steeper.
4) The route back is down hill. “FCTURN” & “FCPARK” are still in the GPS if you get lost. right? However, did you remember there’s a creek to cross again. Hee Hee.

The Cache:
Just the typical trinkets in a 50 cal. Ammo box. What more would you expect from Road Kill? Maybe a plain, easy to find hide, would be a surprise. OK, it is unique, but an easy find (this cache can easly be found in the winter unless snow is 3 feet or more). The real treasure is one of physical achievement. I couldn’t have your hard work go un-rewarded.

A few rules - Please:
No motorized vehicles. Cache hunting only – No game hunting. Take nothing out unless you brought it in, which brings us to leave nothing behind if you did bring it in. This is NOT an invitation and you travel at your own risk. If anyone instructs you to leave, their word is my word. Get their name, leave first and contact me later if you want. This cache is off limits during the months of November and December (Hunting season). Please understand this is a rarity to have a cache on private land. Treat it the same as you would treat other game hunting lands. If it is your style to ask permission, feel free to do so.

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Note 15 Jun 2007 by  Paleoman  (Finds: 95  Score: 428)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 60)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

RoadKill, don't pay any attention to the gibberish that Killerb writes about this experience he still had sour grapes in his mouth after I huckled him on 4 out of 6 caches we visited that day. As far as the Bear experience that he will weave a tale of falsehoods about, all I can say is when I saw the Bear my Paleoman survival instincts kicked in and the said to me that hanging around a bear in the woods with cubs is not a good idea so get out of there before you end up as bear poop. I would also like to add that our direction of travel while hiking to this cache was at all times up for grabs and anyone of us could have led the way. I chose to take the most direct route, which wasn't as bad as the "Geritol junkie" said it was. If you want to hear the "Real" story of how this whole adventure went, Bluestone and I would be more than glad to tell it to you. Thanks again for all the fun we had with this cache and for sharing another unique and out of the way place with us. -Paleoman-

I found it! 13 Jun 2007 by  killerb  (Finds: 2  Score: 10.5)    (Hidden: 6  Score: 31)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Well Road Kill, as I told you I would, I finally made it to this adventuresome cache. I just took me a year to get up enough courage and loose enough weight to make the climb. It did not take any encourgement on my part to talk Cracker(Blue_Stone) into taking it on, as it had always been on his list of "Caches To Do". Before starting out I took my last swig of Geratol, knowing that I was going to need some extra something to get me to this cache.
1st stop; My partner, ButterflyGuy was out of the BO Van and ready to go, even before I got it parked along the road. Being sure to follow all of the directions given in the cache page. Cracker and Paleoman, some guy we picked up along the way, followed us to the parking coords. My partner started us off in the right direction, with Bo in the lead.
2nd stop; the old dune buggy. What a creation this thing was, being older than any one of us, and maybe in better shape than some. Just this, made the trip from Mt Morris worth while.
3rd stop; the creek, where we never thought we would get our stone mason, ButterflyGuy, out of. He had to look at, pick up and inspect every rock and stone in the creek bed.
4th stop; The cabin area with all of its interesting artifacts. Being an old Gleason gear man, I had to inspect everything that had a gear tooth on it, and there were lots of these. Not taking the time to look for any trail, as Road Kill suggested, Paleoman lead us off into the brush and the start of the incline, which never ended from that point on.
Stops numbers 5------8 were taken by Cracker and KillerB somewhere in between that cabin and the trail we should have taken in the first place. This was a much appreciated find, as it started out in a cross hill direction. Paleoman soon took us from that trail and back into the bush and straight up the hill again, with ButterflyGuy right on his heels. Like fools that we are, Cracker and I followed. Between there and the cache, there were too many stops to count.
Stop #5; Upon our arrival to the cache sight, Paleoman and ButterflyGuy were sitting on a log and all smiles. Cracker made short work of finding the cache next, and I was last to find. We all took a well deserved rest before heading back down. NOW, Paleoman is more than willing to stick to the trails. What's wrong with this picture?????
I'll call the next stop #6 even though it was the cabin again. This time we took in the spring water coming from the hill above that we had just come down from. Paleoman chose not to drink any, because it had not been through the Warsaw Water Purifcation Plant, which he operates. Foolish man. By the looks of some of the equipment, this palce must be a Venison packing plant in the fall.
7th stop; back at the creek, where ButterflyGuy found a treasure to take home with him and I picked up a nice fossil rock to take along as a momento of a GREAT CACHE.
Road Kill, "THANK YOU" for providing us with such a start of a day caching with good friends. Someday I'll tell you how Paleoman takes on a black bear, that we encountered just down the raod at a beautiful falls area.
KillerB, Paleoman, Cracker and ButterflyGuy

I found it! 12 Jun 2007 by  Paleoman  (Finds: 95  Score: 428)    (Hidden: 14  Score: 60)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

Now this is what I'm talking about! This was a fabulous caching adventure and it was made even more fun by going on this adventure with Bluestone, Butterflyguy, and Killerb. Once we found the parking spot and carefully followed the directions about not using anyones driveways, we found the trail by the road and began our walk down to the creek. On the way we discovered one of the most ingeniously designed mountain climbing vehicles made from the remains of an old Ford modelA. We spent quite a little time checking this out and then it was on to the creek. The water was low so boots were not needed for this part. We arrived at the first waypoint and decided to bushwhack our way until we found a trail or road to follow, (which never really happened until we were almost at the cache site). Once there we wondered if the cache still existed since it has been almost 4 years since this was last visited. After a quick search I huckled the group and then sat back and enjoyed watching the others try to locate the cache. Finally after the last cacher made the find, I opened the container to find a very well preserved cache. Everything looked as good as new. (These ammo are amazing). This was such a beautiful place to rest and take in the scenery and we spent quite a while doing just that. Thanks so much Roadkill for keeping this cache in play and for finding these unique and far removed places. This is a caching adventure I will always remember. -Paleoman-
[Modified 2007-08-30 10:01:20]

I found it! 11 Jun 2007 by  ButterflyGuy  (Finds: 7  Score: 31.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Unrestricted

I'm glad that KillerB and Paleoman summed this whole cache up so well! I'm logging this for Butterfly Guy. He said he had a GREAT time at this cache and will remember it for quite awhile. TFTC RoadKill!

I found it! 11 Jun 2007 by  Cracker7M  (Finds: 35  Score: 168.5)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 22)
    Open Log:  Non-commercial use only

Wow! Well, after 4 yrs, 2 months, 3wks and 2 days, I can announce we accepted and passed the Challenge. I had always wanted to find this cache, after hearing stories of Brogan & GEO's adventure.
I FINALLY was able to make plans to SPECIFICALLY hunt this cache with a great group of, uh, cachers.

We started off the day with this one. We made it to the parking coords, (minus one Magellan Green GPS, which was left on a truck bumper in Arkport), and ButterFlyGuy spotted the trailhead.
Soon after entering the trail, someone spotted the "Hoodlebug".
Of course, being guys, and older ones to boot, we had to stop and check it out. Wow! Very Kewl!
Sooo..On to the creek. Had to coax Paleoman away from the fossils, and ButterflyGuy from all the kewl "masonry" stones.

After a few minutes we made it to the camp. Here we took a breather, and checked out the old grader.
Instead of looking harder for the trail to the SE, we ended up following Paleoman straight up the hill. After awhile, we finally came across a trail sidehilling in front of us, so we picked it up, until the cache was about 400ft off to our right, then we climbed the final, STEEP hill.

Of course Paleoman got there first, and huckled, followed closely by ButterFlyGuy. KillerB, Cracker (Blue_Stone) and Bo brought up the rear.
Wow, very kewl to see various old farm and logging impliments sitting in such seemingly inacessable spots. After trading, and signing the log, we headed back down, following the trails this time. We shortly hit a fork, with one trail curving steeply down the bank. KillerB and Cracker (Blue_Stone) with Bo decided to take this route, as it seemed most direct. Well, we ended up hitting bottom near a small pond, next to a pretty knoll with a couple large pines on it. In a couple minutes, we exited behind the cabin to see Paleoman and ButterflyGuy relaxing...Man, what do these two EAT?...I'm almost thinking maybe they had snuck into KillerB's Geritol stash...

After a short breather for the rearguard, we headed back out to the vehicles, to move on to the Indian Springs cache just down the road.

Road Kill, thanx SOOO much for sharing such a beautiful area! We hope youre grinning after reading these logs...We sure had some good times and grins we shared with each other on this "Challenge".
Hopefully, word of mouth will help get this cache found a bit more often than every four years!

Note 19 Mar 2003 by  GEO  (Finds: 17  Score: 69)    (Hidden: 16  Score: 74)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

For the sake of fairness, I would appreciate it if this cache could be listed on geocaching.com too. The fact that a travel bug (not a hitchhiker) was stuck there for so long and can't even collect a mile for it kinda sucks.

I found it! 19 Mar 2003 by  GEO  (Finds: 17  Score: 69)    (Hidden: 16  Score: 74)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Brogan and I were on a mission to rescue a travel bug stranded in this cache. So off we went. Crossing the creek was no problem even at this time of the year with all the snow melting. And no, we didn't hitch a ride in the hoodlebug either. Where's the challenge in that??? Instead of using the trail all the way up, we decided to have a bit of fun and we bee-lined to the top. That was the real challenge. The hill was very icy and covered with leaves. We managed to make it up the hill thanks to the trees serving as footholds and handholds. Once at the top of the hill, finding the cache was easy. We rescued the bug, signed the log and Brogan took a few pictures. The way back down was easier but I almost impaled my hand on a branch. Fortunately I had a pair of gloves on. They took the abuse instead of me! Finally, we had to stop to check out the hoodlebug closely. This thing is something else! I can see why people get a kick out of riding it. Thanks for a challenging cache and a fun time.

Note 21 Jul 2002 by  ROCKY  (Finds: 48  Score: 221)    (Hidden: 21  Score: 89)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

I hope the Hoodlebug was not put into use to elevate the recent cachers, the hiker and I may not feel they enjoyed the full Challenge of Faw Cow'ee if that be the case?

I found it! 20 Jul 2002 by  road rash  (Finds: 30  Score: 130)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Was out with Balloonpilot,Chickenlips,WW.Gobstopper,Olf D Coors and yes Roadkill. What can I say but WOW! What a challenge. Very nice area however and did get to see a coyote on the way out. Nice hiding spot, took and left nothing. The hoodlebug was awesome. Thanx Roadkill for a great time.

I found it! 20 Jul 2002 by  balloonpilot and chickenlips  (Finds: 52  Score: 252.5)    (Hidden: 7  Score: 31)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Roadkill...........you devil!! You have a knack for placing extremely interesting caches. If I hadn't eaten so much for breakfast, I'd have made it up twice as fast. Lot of good that would have done me, I was Huckle Buckled by the best of them this day! We had a great time with our new Pennsylvania caching friend. Some things we will remember forever. Roadkill and the Hoodlebug were made for one another..like bread and butter you might say! Some of the caching party saw a good sized coyote when we were on our way down. That was a nice bonus for some of us. Roadkill, thanks again for a great frienship and a great cache..

I found it! 20 Jul 2002 by  Olf D Coors  (Finds: 3  Score: 15.5)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

What a trip!!! Every cache should have a Hoodlebug! Found this cache along with Roadrash, Balloonpilot, Chickenlips, and WWGobstopper. We even had a chauffeur who grinned the whole time! Had a good lesson on variances between GPS's. Only wish that I could have been the first huckle-buckle-beanstalk'r! Thanks to one and all for a fantastic time!

I found it! 21 Apr 2002 by  thehiker  (Finds: 1  Score: 6)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Hey. What climb !! Tried to stay on path/road but lost it so bushwacked. If the creek crossing was not bad enough then the hill!! Hell mountain.......But kept goin as I always do.My Garmin 3+ said it was within 6'. But no luck. Then after I really looked I found it. Awesome placement.......Took multi-tool, left sidewalk chalk toy car and Ms M&M imposter ............ I think she will be happy there........Thanks.

I found it! 21 Jan 2002 by  ROCKY  (Finds: 48  Score: 221)    (Hidden: 21  Score: 89)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Very nice area and quite the hike. I think I took the bee-line path, steep, but all on trails or woods roads. Nice to see in person some of the things I saw in photos this past June. As a Steuben County resident I was prepared for the "CHALLENGE" of FawCow'ee, I think some of them city fellers ain't up to this here kind of walk.
Found the cache fine, snow cover will not be a problem, thanks Road Kill for a invigorating hike


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