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cache type Murursprung cache size

by edorian
(Finds: 10  Score: 50)    (Hidden: 5  Score: 28.5)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 47° 07.829'   E 013° 20.825'

See,   Salzburg   
Austria    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 25 May 2003
Waypoint (Landmark): N00999
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Normal
Cache size:   Normal

Difficulty: gps gps (easy)
Terrain: gps gps half gps (moderate)

Misc: Drinking water available. No restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!

Comments:

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If you ever wanted to know where all (or at least some) of the water of the Mur river that you see in many of the Graz area caches comes from this is the right cache.

This cache is placed close to the source of the river Mur.

To go to the cache by car you should take the road to Muhr from St.Michael im Lungau. If you are going there from the Graz area you might want to go via Bruck - Leoben - Judenburg - Murau, because that way you will be following the Mur river to its source. If you go there on the highways you might be faster, but you will have to pay to use the Katschbergtunnel. (You can leave the highway before the Katschbergtunnel and go over the Katschberg on the ordinary road which I think is free.)

You can leave your car at the parking lot near the Arsenhütte. (N47°06.737' E013°25.648'). There is also a parking lot a little bit closer to the cache (47°08.009' E013°24.153') but when I hid the cache the road there was still closed for winter. (And there were a lot of trees lying on the road)

There is a bus stop next to the Arsenhütte (Rotgülden - Aufstieg Rotgüldensee - Arsenhaus) so you could also come by bus from Tamsweg. But on the webpage of bus company (http://www.postbus.at/fahrplan/index.html ) I did not find any buses going there. Maybe they only go there in summer.
At http://www.taelerbus.at/fahrplan/3304a.htm I just saw that there even is a bus going to the Sticklerhütte. (Or at least it did go in the year 2002, from july 7th until September 8th) If you really want to go there by bus you should look for some up to date time tables.

There are several signposts showing the way to the Murursprung, so getting there should not be hard. In the beginning the way leads along the road, but from the Sticklerhütte on it leads through a beautiful mountain pasture. The terrain is easier than the rated 3.5 most of the time, the only hard thing is getting to the cache because you have to go through the water and/or over the snow to get there. I'm sure it will get easier in the next weeks when the snow has melted and there will probably be less water in the river.

The cache is hidden on a small island a few meters downstream from the source.

From the Arsenhütte the walk is about 10km in one direction, from the second parking lot it should be about 7km.

There are also some other places that look like good starting points if you are coming from another direction. From the end of the Großarlbach valley, south from St, Johann im Pongau there is a path that leads to the source of the mur. (With much more elevation gain than from the Arsenhütte side)
Or you could go there from the Kölnbreinspeicher at the end of the Maltavalley.
But I have only tried and rated the way from the Arsenhütte.

I forgot to bring a cachenote. Can the first visitor please bring one?

Original contents:
Logbook (please do not remove)
Pencil (please do not remove)
Geolutin 'Amateur de Montagnes'
Graz 2003 sticker
Rubber ball
Saruman figurine from surprise egg
Tiny compass and thermometer (for key fob)

Clue decoding tables - Top letter or symbol decodes to bottom letter or symbol:

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM

!"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?
123456789:;<=>?@!"#$%&'()*+,-./

Clues:    decode

  • Exact hiding place 
    Ybbx va n fznyy bcravat bs gur ebpx< gung znxrf hc zbfg bs gur vfynaq< snpvat gbjneqf gur fbhepr> V chg gjb fznyy ebpxf ba gur pnpurobk>

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CACHE LOGS - May contain hints(spoilers)!    decode

I found it! 17 Aug 2003 by  mike_hd  (Finds: 104  Score: 359)    (Hidden: 15  Score: 45.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

Found 17.08.03 13.45

Wir konnten über das Arsenhaus hinaus bis kurz vor die Muritzen mit dem Auto fahren. Ab da war an einem Parkplatz die Strasse gesperrt, welche bis hierher asphaltiert ist. Der Bus geht definitiv nur bis zum Arsenhaus. Während der Hüttensaison fährt ein Berg-Taxi ab diesem Parkplatz bis zur Stickler-Hütte, welches wir aber nicht nutzten. Das Taxi holt auf Anruf bei der Hütte (06479/349) wohl auch Leute vom Arsenhaus ab.
Der Weg bis zur Stickler-Hütte ist schwerer als der Rest, da hier mehr Höhenmeter zu machen sind. Aber auch dieser Weg ist landschaftlich reizvoll. Ab dem Arsenhaus ist das eine wirklich gute Wanderung.
Ab der Stickler-Hütte ist es ein reizvoller Weg in einem weiten Tal bis zum Murursprung. Wir waren überrascht wieviel Leute hier unterwegs waren, ein beliebtes Wanderziel weil es hier wirklich schön ist.

Der Cache war dann auch ohne Hint relativ leicht zu finden. Den Geolutin haben wir im Cache gelassen, da wir in Kürze keine längere Wanderung machen werden.
Eine cache-note hatten wir leider nicht dabei.

out: kleiner Kompass und Thermometer
in: Brillenreparatur-Set

Grüße aus Heidelberg / Germany, mike_hd, Daniel und (teilweise) Uschi


We could drive by car to a parking lot short before Muritzen. From here the road was closed. The bus ends definitively at Arsenhaus. During hut-saison, there is a mountain-taxi to pic up the people from the parking lot up to Stickler-hut. This taxi could be also called (06479/349) to pic up people at Arsenhaus.
The way from the parking up to Stickler-Hütte is more harder as there are more hight-meters. But even this section is a scenic route. The way from Stickler-hut to the Mur-source in the wide valley is really nice. We were surprised about a lot of people here, it's a popular hiking-target.

The cache itself was to find easy even without hint. We left the geolutin, as we would not make a longer hiking in next time.
We had no cache-note with us, so we couldn't place one in the cache.

out: tiny compass and thermometer
in: repair set for glasses

Greetings from Heidelberg / Germany, mike_hd, Daniel and (partly) Uschi

  cameraim Tal / in the valley
  cameraam / at Murursprung


 

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