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by Blackpete
(Finds: 406  Score: 1774)    (Hidden: 19  Score: 73)

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Coordinates (WGS-84 datum)
N 42° 45.443'   W 076° 53.832'
Mac Dougall,   New York   14541
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 23 Mar 2003
Waypoint (Landmark): N00562
Open Cache:  Personal use only
Cache type:  Virtual
Cache size:   Virtual

Difficulty: gps (easy)
Terrain: gps (easy)

Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available Disabled access. No pets are allowed. Parking is a challenge. No fees!

This is a "drive-up" virtual cache. The coordinates given place you in one of many spots along the road to view the White Deer. The deer usually can be seen between the fence and brush line along a cinder road within the fence. The best times for viewing are at dawn and dusk. As you drive along (preferably from south to north so you are on the correct side of the road), be sure to look down openings in the brush. During the summer you may see many cars pulled off the road in this area watching the white deer graze.

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In 1941, 24 miles of security fencing enclosed the area now known as the Conservation Area (CA) of the former Seneca Army Depot. Captured within the fence line of the CA were several whitetail deer (Odocoileus virginianus) of the normal brown coloration. Within a few years, however, something unique happened. White pigmented deer began populating the brown deer herd within the CA. The U. S. Army, sensing something unique was taking place, gave the white deer protection while they managed the brown deer through hunting. This was necessary to keep the population within the carrying capacity of the habitat of the CA.
It appears one or more of the brown whitetails originally confined with the CA, carried the recessive gene for white coloration. Over time and with protection from the military, this normally recessive gene continued to manifest itself. Today, the CA is home to the world’s largest and only herd of white deer, nearly 200 individuals strong. Such a density of white deer can be found no where else in the world!
White deer have brown eyes unlike albino deer that are pink eyed. It is also not uncommon to see brown does with white fawns or white does with brown fawns. The color combinations of white and brown deer range from gray to brown as well as white spotting along with pure white.
To protect the entire deer herd, the maintenance of the 24 miles of fence must be maintained. Within the fenced area of the CA, the white and brown deer can be properly managed through hunting to keep the herd healthy. If the fence line degrades, and the deer escape, especially the white deer, they are heavily sought as trophies and will perish quickly.

For more information on the White Deer Herd, visit http://senecawhitedeer.org.

Take a picture of the white deer - preferably with you and your GPS in the shot. Log your sighting and tell us about what you saw.


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I found it! 03 May 2009 by  ChileHead  (Finds: 24  Score: 92.5)    (Hidden: 52  Score: 182)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

The Seneca white deer organization occasionally conducts tours of the old army depot. My wife saw an article in the newspaper a couple months back, and purchased tickets for the family.

We met at the fire station just North of the depot on 96A at 8am this morning (ugh, had to leave real early to get there.)

We got there a bit early so I thought we'd drive down a bit along the fence just to see if we could spot some deer. I've never seen them before, but always look when I drive by. Normally I probably drive by during the mid day when all the deer are sleeping, and I've never had any luck. Finally this morning we saw a half dozen or so from outside the fence. Cool! Let's skip the tour and go back home to bed! :^)

At 8am we boarded the bus and headed in. They had to hire a security guard to guard the gate today as it was unlocked and opened up for the tour buses. I suppose they needed the guard to make sure nobody else let themselves in while it was unlocked.

We saw lots of deer, white and brown, throughout the morning. We also learned a lot about the history of the base, saw a number of the old buildings still standing, and saw lots of the bunkers used to store ammunition and nuclear weapons.

Also saw lots of birds including eagles, different hawks, owls, turkey, osprey, etc ... Lots of evidence of beaver from the trees felled and not yet collected for their dams.

There were lots of train cars on the tracks here; apparently the base (owned mostly by the town now?) charges a fee for storing the cars here during the recession since they are not being used as much as they used to.

Very neat area; I'm glad we made it. The organizers are big into developing this into a tourist attraction, rather than developing it into commercial and/or residential space. They have lots of ideas, but I can't see them flying economically.

One interesting idea was to renovate the bunkers to be used as "bunker and breakfast" units. I suppose they could be used as an alternative to cabins for camping in; I'd definitely try it out to say I slept in a bunker. Hopefully they are no longer radio active!

I'll post pictures when I upload them tonight from my camera.

I found it! 19 Jul 2004 by  Team Ferret  (Finds: 56  Score: 244.5)    (Hidden: 8  Score: 32.5)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

We were on our way home and finally saw a deer closer to the fence than we have before. The shots aren't great because we were in a hurry to get home. Couldn't get the deer to raise her head. =(

Thanks! The history of the area is facinating!

Team Ferret
Mark and Terre

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Note 16 Oct 2003 by  Wheelygood  (Finds: 103  Score: 582)    (Hidden: 21  Score: 92)
    Open Log:  Personal use only

I was heading south on 96 and finally had an opportunity to take a decent photo of one of the deer. I saw the deer, a button buck, between the USCG drive and the 5 Points drive, the deer are not as plentiful on the east side as they are along west side of the park on 96A.

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I found it! 26 Jul 2003 by  SwampRat311  (Finds: 50  Score: 192)    (Hidden: 0  Score: 0)
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We saw white deer outside of the depot. They were in the bean field across the street. We saw them just at dusk, as we came from Admiral Benbow Inn. There were two white ones and one regular old brown one. Wonder how they got out?


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