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cache type Tillman Road No. 3 (Navicache only hide!!) cache size

by WhiteUrkel
(Finds: 171   Score: 632)   (Hidden: 40   Score: 156)

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Coordinates ( WGS-84 datum )
N 42° 57.856'   W 078° 36.533'
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Clarence ,    New York    14031
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 12 Feb 2005
Waypoint (Landmark): N01796
Open Cache:    Non-commercial use only
Cache type:    Normal
Cache size:    Normal

Difficulty:   gps half gps (easy)
Terrain:   gps gps half gps (moderate)
Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!

Comments:


Maps are queued for generation.
Additional maps for this cache available at: topozone.com logo    mapquest.com logo


Well, the name of this cache isn't totally accurate; it is cross listed on Scout's great website www.gpsgames.org You should check it out; they have much more than just geocaching. This cache was rejected by the overzealous geocaching.com approver due to an alleged "ban" on caches in New York State Wildlife Management Area's, a ban which neither the approver or any State beaurocrats have convinced me actually exists. This cache was placed long before any New York State permit policy was in place, as well.

There is an interesting (and long) story about how this cache came to be. In May, 2004, a clueless newbie moved the cache Tillman Road (GCD630) by ColoradoRed about 75 feet to get it away from a bee's nest. The coords didn't need to be changed, they said in their find log, because the cache was "in the same general area" (obviously, they changed considerably).

The moved cache was in duress anyways, and a couple of months later, a good samaritan cacher replaced the container, but still at the wrong coords, 75 feet away.

Then in January 2005, ColoradoRed replaced the container himself at even different coords; this is the current Tillman Road (GCD630) cache. This left the replacement container at the wrong coords pretty much just sitting in the woods as geo-trash 150 ft away.

In february, 2005, I was asked to adopt all ColoradoRed caches, because he was moving out of the area. I did a maintenance check on the "new" Tillman Road cache, and trashed out the replacement cache, added a few trinkets and a new logbook, hid it in a different part of the park, and Viola, Tillman Road Number 3 (Navicache Only Hide!!) was born. Turns out ColoradoRed decided to stay in the area anyways (bad move, Red, you should have left).

Ignore any writing on the inside cover of the cache regarding a "next clue"! These were the coords to the first leg of another cache in the park which is retired, and doesn't exist anymore! I will remove or obliterate this writing on the next maintenance visit.

So this is the 3rd cache (hence the name) in the 235 acre Tillman Road State Wildlife Management Area in Clarence. One of the caches is archived.

I parked at N42 Deg. 57.600' W078 Deg. 36.634', approx. .35 miles from the cache. This is recommended if you need to find both Tillman Road (GCD630) by ColoradoRed and this cache. If you need only this cache, you can probably park closer, if you are familiar with the area (or study mapquest closely).

The cache is a relatively small snap-top tupperware container. If intending to trade, think on the small side.


Clue decoding tables - Top letter or symbol decodes to bottom letter or symbol:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A B C D E F G H I J K L M

! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . /



Clues:    decode
  • Clue 1 
    Qbja gb gur rqtr bs gur znefu> Uvqqra ng gur onfr bs n yvir gerr>



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CACHE LOGS - May contain hints(spoilers)!    decode

I found it! 14 Mar 2009 by  sabrefan7   (Finds: 13   Score: 57)   (Hidden: 3   Score: 11.5)
     Open Log:    Non-commercial use only
Recovered in good condition. The container was out in the open a little slimy green on the inside. Log book and contents were dry in the bag. I thought I would be the next finder after 3 years but the log book has been signed on 7/24/07 and 4/10/08 by a guy looking for deer antlers.
Signed log and re hid TFTC!
I found it! 28 May 2006 by  Viper621   (Finds: 1   Score: 4)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Non-commercial use only
This was our first time ever geocaching and we had lots of fun! A very familiar trail to us and a great spot not too far from our dog's favorite swimming hole. My 7 year old son was torn up over parting with the trinkets we brought along, so we didn't do any trading, but lots of fun little goodies in the cache to look at anyway. Gorgeous weather too!
I found it! 26 Mar 2006 by  Sunrayers   (Finds: 25   Score: 74)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Nice hide in a wide-open park
TFTC
I found it! 23 Mar 2006 by  Cayuga Crew   (Finds: 77   Score: 289)   (Hidden: 2   Score: 8)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Found it while hanging out in the swamp trying to become one with the geese.
I found it! 11 Mar 2006 by  gof1   (Finds: 34   Score: 122.5)   (Hidden: 2   Score: 7)
     Open Log:    Non-commercial use only
Found this one on a spring like day in march while we were in the area on other caching business.
This is a beautiful area and well worth the trip.
The Canada geese were making allot of noise today.
The cache is in great shape, dry as a bone.
Thanks for another great hide.
I found it! 27 Oct 2005 by  Gryffindor1   (Finds: 52   Score: 202.5)   (Hidden: 8   Score: 25)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
I've been waiting for the rain to stop to hunt for this one... and I had expected it to be really muddy, too - but it wasn't at all :)

I haven't been here in years, and it was nice to have an excuse to come out again. I really must remember to bring my camera with me on my hunts. Tons of birds around - I counted about a dozen different species. I wish I had brought some seeds for the chickadees - they looked like they were expecting a handout...

A pretty easy find and lots of neat stuff in the cache, even tho' I didn't trade. The flip-top on the container was opened, but the zip-lock baggie inside kept everything nice and dry.

TNLNSL TFTC!
I found it! 01 Oct 2005 by  Rayman77   (Finds: 104   Score: 393.5)   (Hidden: 10   Score: 32.5)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Ahh finally another Navicache "regular" has found this cache. As TWU said, the cache was completely exposed but we recovered it. I posted a link to here on my gc.com Tillman Road 'found' log, so hopefully that might generate a little more traffic to this one. TFTC Urk.
Note 01 Oct 2005 by  WhiteUrkel   (Finds: 171   Score: 632)   (Hidden: 40   Score: 156)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Maintenance visit. I changed the name of the cache a couple of days ago, hoping the (Navicache only hide!!) would draw attention to it. I dragged Rayman77 to the cache today. It's been found by three people who never logged online. One who said they came "all the way from Baghdad" to find the cache in April (left no name of any kind), ColoradoRed on June 13, and a couple who left their real names on September 11th. We found the cache totally exposed, but I'm sure it's a critter. I doubt any non-geocachers would ever find it anyways. Despite the low traffic, there is a faint geocachers trail leading to the area (It was a winter hide, and there is about 30 ft. of bushwacking involved).
Note 22 Mar 2005 by  mickemt   (Finds: 172   Score: 590.5)   (Hidden: 71   Score: 266)
     Open Log:    Unrestricted
LOL!!!! Worst part is there is a certain approver on another site that KNOWS about the leg for the other cache!
The offer IS appealing............
Note 21 Mar 2005 by  WhiteUrkel   (Finds: 171   Score: 632)   (Hidden: 40   Score: 156)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Hmm. and the number of regular Navicache loggers who haven't found this cache continues to dwindle.. A leg of the bankers cache? For the small fee of $$20, I'll make sure I don't slip and tell the gc.com admin about it! And I'd even through in pirating an offensive cache in Scranton.
I found it! 21 Mar 2005 by  mickemt   (Finds: 172   Score: 590.5)   (Hidden: 71   Score: 266)
     Open Log:    Unrestricted
Well, Urkel keeps hiding them & I keep finding them!
Hate to say this Urkel, but this might "technically" be the 4th cache in the park if you caount the fact that 1 leg of "A banker's cache" is hidden in here. ;-)
As expected, this was a great cache, thanks for another quality caching experience!
MickEMT
I found it! 15 Feb 2005 by  Mr_Z   (Finds: 85   Score: 308.5)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Non-commercial use only
The convenience/curse/joy of winter caching: just follow
the footprints in the snow.
TN/LN/SL. TFTC.
I found it! 13 Feb 2005 by  skeeterbait2   (Finds: 14   Score: 59)   (Hidden: 5   Score: 28.5)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Ditto SF1 Log Nice little walk through a well known trail by me had to watch for the skiers though we made it and YAHOOOOOOOO FTF where is all the FTFers on here (clearing throat) Mickemt???????????????????
[Modified 2005-03-08 08:05:59] by Cache Owner

Note 13 Feb 2005 by  WhiteUrkel   (Finds: 171   Score: 632)   (Hidden: 40   Score: 156)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Congrats to the first finders!!! Did you tie a yellow ribbon around it, so I can re-find it myself for future maintenace visits?? This cache MAY end up only being listed on this website, and gpsgames.org, depending on how pissed off I get....

[Modified 2005-02-13 23:47:49]

I found it! 13 Feb 2005 by  strikeforce_sunset   (Finds: 45   Score: 177)   (Hidden: 6   Score: 23)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Yippee Ki Aye!
SkeeterBait2 and I are FTF’s on this one.
It all started when I got a call from SK2 to help update the PDA.
One thing led to another, and I herd, this one popped up as new.
As we discussed a time to get together, we decided not to update the PDA, but go get some caching done.

We set out after this one, hoping nobody else would get the jump on us. There were tons of cars in the lot when we arrived. We were a little concerned, we might not be alone.
We were in such a hurry, I left most of my caching stuff in the geomobile, except for my WG$$, my stamp and the GPSr.

Found it pretty easily, just put my nose to the ground, and followed the arrow. LOL

T/tb that SB2 will be dropping off, L/ WG$$.
Thanks Great WhiteUrkel, for another nice cache.

Strikeforce1 *out-and-about* with SB2

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