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cache type Lower Falls And The Old Glen House cache cache size

by Rippie
(Finds: 35   Score: 157)   (Hidden: 11   Score: 77.5)

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Coordinates ( WGS-84 datum )
N 43° 10.998'   W 077° 37.698'
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Rochester ,    New York    14613
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 15 Mar 2002
Waypoint (Landmark): N00191
Open Cache:    Personal use only
Cache type:    Normal
Cache size:    Normal

Difficulty:   gps gps gps (moderate)
Terrain:   gps gps gps (moderate)
Misc: No drinking water! There are restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!


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WARNING: high risk, steep cliffs, high over hangs, falling rock zone, fast water, caution adults only. Cache at your own risk and know your limitations before taking on this adventure.

The Glen House was built in 1870 by Ellwanger & Barry, Chauncey Woodworth, the perfumer, and James Whitney, who also promoted the adjacant picnic grounds, known variously as Maplewood, Maple Grove and Maplewood park.

For about 25 years the Glen House existed. People met here to eat and party, it became a favorite meeting place. Picnic cruises as well as romatic moon light excursions on side wheelers like the City of Rochester (which was later called the J.D. Scott) and screw steam ships like the Wilcox and Charlotte were common place.

In 1878 an elevator was built to raise people from the Glen House up to a covered run way that lead to the street. The elevator ran on water power from the falls and was referred to as "old calamity" because of problems associated with it.

On a night in 1894 the Glen House caught fire and the "mother-in-law" of owner Jacob Valley perished while sleeping in her bedroom.

Maplewood and the Lower Falls area has a lot of History associated to them. The indian village Casconchiagon at the Lower Falls was occupied by Senecas until 1819. * * * Buell Ave. ran along the embankment at Maplewood. Some of the road was cut into the gorge wall and for some a stone wall was built a short distance from the gorge wall and dirt filled in behind it. This road lead to Kelseys (Buell) Landing (remains of the road are in the area). Freedom was assured for slaves who boarded Canadian vessels here at the Landing which was the end of the underground railroad. In 1863 Union volunteers even camped in the Maplewood park area. Around 1871 a beer garden was located at Maplewood and remains of 1914 hiking shelter remain to this day.

credit: Sketch book by Arch Merrill pgs. 104,105. Also information from signs in the park. * * * Buell Ave. and the 1914 hiking shelter information provided by Geocache Historian Lower Falls.

Fishermen access the river area around the Glen House ruins. Even though the city has "no access to river" signs posted. The path has steep cliffs an is in a falling rock zone, with high drop off points along it. Its an "At Your Own Risk" approach that many people use.

In the middle of the summer "experienced" paddlers can almost paddle up to the Glen House ruins by ferrying their boats. But because of river current its best to land down stream a little ways and walk up. If you hear a loud siren head for high ground. It means a large volume of water is about to be discharged over the falls.

The cache is a tuperware shoe box (with dollar store goodies) and is hidden inside an uprooted tree. The tree fell from inside the ruins over one of the walls toward the outside. You have to locate the cache hole which can only be seen while standing outside the ruins looking back toward the inside of the ruins. Some bark, a few flate rocks and leaves cover the cache box.

Remember this is a high traffic area with thousands of people visiting it in the course of the summer. Make sure the box is covered completly with rocks and leaves. Also be aware of those who may be watching you from across the river.

Huckle Buckle Beanstalk,


This is a Rochester History geocache.

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I found it! 01 Sept 2012 by  BrotherTim   (Finds: 19   Score: 95.5)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Found using another site. I am looking for some older caches so I decided to start logging my finds here too.
I found it! 05 May 2012 by  wander41   (Finds: 4   Score: 18.5)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
nice warm spring day for caching
I found it! 06 Dec 2008 by  sagefemme   (Finds: 67   Score: 299)   (Hidden: 8   Score: 33.5)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Nice easy find (except for the long climb back up to pedestrian level!). Pleased to find a history lesson inside. Way to many toy tradables in there. Someone needs to harvest this cache, and use the toys as tradables in other caches!

I found it! 29 Aug 2004 by  OurWoods   (Finds: 76   Score: 294.5)   (Hidden: 26   Score: 101)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Found with the group. Credit goes to my cousin Trey. Thanks!
I found it! 29 Aug 2004 by  Blackpete   (Finds: 406   Score: 1774)   (Hidden: 19   Score: 73)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
First cache of the day with a large group. We gave up on this one a few other times due to very wet conditions.
I found it! 26 Oct 2003 by  Thrill Seekers   (Finds: 1   Score: 6)   (Hidden: 2   Score: 6.5)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
We got about half way down the trail on this rainy, muddy Sunday when I lost my footing and nearly fell so I chickened out. I wandered around on this level whle my brave Mr. Thrill Seekers went down to retrieve the cache. He did a great job! He said it took him a little while to find it but he persevered. TNLN as I had the backpack with the trinkets! Thanks for the adventure! We really enjoyed this one with the spectacular views. Be aware that in rain it can be slippery.

I found it! 28 Sept 2003 by  lighthouserocket   (Finds: 25   Score: 133)   (Hidden: 8   Score: 48)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Got it! thanks.. was a pretty morning.., with many a fisher persons..

cheers, Ryan
I found it! 12 Jul 2003 by  Jerry   (Finds: 1   Score: 6)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
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Well this was my first real persuit of a cache since getting my GPS on father's day. Had started out before on several 2-3 part cache hunts, but gave up and decided to start over with 1 stage hunts. I picked this one cause I was very familiar with the river gorge as I had done much fishing on both sides of the river many years ago. Any way,
One thing I did not know, was which side of the river the ruins were on. And did not think to take a fix from street level before decending all the way down the wrong side of the river :-)) Once we got to the bottom, my pointer was pointing directly acrros the river at a distance of 410 ft.
So what did that tell me. Uh huh, That's right. So we humped it all the way back up the R G &E service road, crossed back over the bridge, and back down through the woods. Pretty easy tracking, but as I got about a hundred feet away, the arrow and footage started going haywire. I stopped for a minute to look around and looked at the clue sheet again. when I started moving again, the gps readings dropped to 8 feet and the pointer was still a little hay wire,
Probably cause I was so close. When I found it, I couldn't believe it. It really made all that climbing worth it.
I did not originaly plan on taking anything from the cache.
My goal was to just find it. so I hadn't brought any thing to leave. But I took the eye chart book mark, and left a quarter. My friend took the flag, and left two individuly wrapped asprin. Might help the next cachers pain from humpin up and down those trails. I'm already planning my next hunt.
And I'm gonna put a cache together this weekend to hide.
This is really a cool hobbie.

Take care

[Modified 2003-07-12 07:34:30] by Admin

I found it! 20 Nov 2002 by  cenobite07   (Finds: 82   Score: 384)   (Hidden: 6   Score: 35.5)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
I wandered in circles a bit until I changd the low batteries and then zeroed right in.

Took nothing and left a dollhouse furniture kit.

Thanks for the hide - it made a nice warm up for the long hike along the river.

I found it! 09 Nov 2002 by  Geo G   (Finds: 64   Score: 319)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
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I've been in Rochester 37 years, and even worked at Hawk Eye across the river, but this is the first time I've seen the Glen House ruins up close. We followed the GPS down to the site, but I only hold that for show. With my 10 year old granddaughter "Lima Bean", she'll find the cache if you get her anywhere in the general vicnity. What an eagle eye! Took the Miss Piggy Pez (wonder if that came from across the river?). Left a mini sewing kit.
I found it! 09 Nov 2002 by  RobN Hood   (Finds: 45   Score: 218)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
The historical information provided about this location made the trip very interesting. Later, we found a photo of the old Glen House and the elevator in the Maple Grove Cache. Thanks for adding to my knowledge of Rochester. Traded a key spool for a whistle. Enjoyed the trip with Geo G and Lima Bean.
I found it! 06 Sept 2002 by  Wheelygood   (Finds: 103   Score: 582)   (Hidden: 21   Score: 92)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
as posted else where...
Finally had a chance to head down to the river and look around at things up close. I've peered over from the bridge and from the East side many times. It is a cool area and I recommend anyone to visit (it will be slippery when wet. Rippie thanks for the history lesson and the hide.
I found it! 11 May 2002 by  Diane   (Finds: 10   Score: 46)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
what an interesting place! jim and i enjoyed the park, the historic signs, meeting some interesting fishermen along the way. beautiful day, fun terrain, muddy spots made it all the more enjoyable. thanks for the great history info. our love of rochester keeps growing the more we learn of it's fascinating history! perfect hiding spot too! took little "homie" guy and left a big ben puzzle keychain. thanks! -di
I found it! 25 Apr 2002 by  philo   (Finds: 26   Score: 152)   (Hidden: 2   Score: 9)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
It was a wet miserable morning, but it stopped raining long enough to make the trek. It was muddy and slippery in the last 100 feet down the trail. My GPS was all over the place. Good thing I took along the Cache description, cause I needed the uprooted tree clue to find it. Great park, it looks like there must be a lot of traffic in the area during the summer. Thanks for the hike. Took nothing, left nothing, in fact I forgot to log in.
I found it! 07 Apr 2002 by  fourpack   (Finds: 68   Score: 352.5)   (Hidden: 10   Score: 52)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
really muddy got real dirty loved every bit of it........ gps took us right to this one .thanks four pack
I found it! 17 Mar 2002 by  Boozer   (Finds: 23   Score: 122)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Introduced 2 more friends to navicaching with this one. Was a little trickey due to mud but not too bad. Cant say it was good weather, plus I have a cold. Few nice sites to see, saw a couple fisherman and a very interesting individual, not a cacher but was proof that this is not a cache to locate under the influence, (or without a belt). Took statue and 2 wheres george bills, left 2 and the almighty fart man. Took in a few sites and had to help our new intoxicated friend back out of there.
I found it! 16 Mar 2002 by  Hinge Thunder   (Finds: 106   Score: 521)   (Hidden: 16   Score: 98.5)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
We must have just missed Lowerfalls. Issaquah Puupy and I found cache probably around 11:30ish. Thought difficulty & terrain rating were a touch high. I would have put it about 3.0/3.5.
I found it! 16 Mar 2002 by  Quinn   (Finds: 75   Score: 376)   (Hidden: 34   Score: 132.5)
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As Caron stated, we found this cache!, though not the first or the second but yes, the third to make a log in the book.
Very nice area with some great views of the falls.I do see however the reason for the warning about bringing kids. If it rains it might even be tough for the adults for a short span. The cache however was a fun one to give a go. We loved the location you had it placed and think you picked a great spot. We could see fishermen farther down the river going after the salmon I assume.
This would be a nice spot for the city to get involved with as far as debris clean-up and safety results. I think if you sent in a boyscout unit here they would have the place looking top shelf in a week.
We signed the logbook and softball and left some wheres George Bills as well as an unopened large bag of hard candy.
Thanks for the great time and look forward to more!
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I found it! 16 Mar 2002 by  Caron   (Finds: 73   Score: 350)   (Hidden: 2   Score: 6)
     Open Log:    Personal use only
Quinn and I found this after two other people. climb wasn't too bad. cache in a great place. caron
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