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cache type The Sullivan Clinton Trail cache size

by killerb
(Finds: 2   Score: 10.5)   (Hidden: 6   Score: 31)

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Coordinates ( WGS-84 datum )
N 42° 44.768'   W 077° 40.615'
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Conesus ,    New York    14435
United States    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 25 Sept 2003
Waypoint (Landmark): N0099E
Open Cache:    Personal use only
Cache type:    Multi-Part
Cache size:    Normal

Difficulty:   gps gps half gps (moderate)
Terrain:   gps half gps (easy)
Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!


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This is a four part cache. The first two by car and the second two by foot on level terrian.

The cache is in a 50mm ammo container with many things for adults,children and even a pet,if you have one along.
It starts with a bit of history and even a math lesson which is kind of easy but could be fun for the kids. This area is part of the movement of revolutionary troops back in 1779, led by Generals Sullivan and Clinton being avenged by Brits and indians.It will take you to an area that must have turned the westward movement either to the south or the north.

Code: From the plaque count the:
a = Number of indians - 3
b = " " soldiers on left + 2
c = " " indians - 1
d = " " horses
e = " " indians
f = " " soldiers on the right
g = " " " " " left - 3
h = " " " " " "
i = " " " " " right - 2
j = " " all soldiers - 10
Once you figure out the code and leave this area be sure to take in the view that those troops must have come up against,at:(code) N gc w ahh gd.hbb.

Your next clue can be found at: N gc ga.bbf W ahh gc dbe

This code will be required to complete the rest of your journey, so keep it handy.
A bit more history: Just a few miles to the west of the cache area, at Groveland Hill, General Sullivans troops were overcome by an indian ambush. Fifteen scouts were killed and one officer,Lt.Thomas Boyd and a Sgt.Michael Parker, were taken captive by the tribe of indians. Lt.Boyd and Sgt.Parker were found days later in a Seneca indian encapement, ten miles to the northwest. They had been bound to what is now known as "The Torture Tree" in Cuylerville NY. They had been tortured and left to die. This was to be the last westward movement by Gen.Sullivans troops.
Hope you enjoy the journey, the history and the math.
Bo(a dog named bo) says"only one snack per dog" from the cache.
Hope you enjoy the trip, the history lesson and the code.

Clue decoding tables - Top letter or symbol decodes to bottom letter or symbol:


! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . / 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 : ; < = > ? @ ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , - . /

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    Gur pnpur nern jbhyq or n tbbq cynpr sbe n srj vaqvnaf gb uvqr va< jnvgvat gb nzohfu gur fbyqvref>

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I found it! 17 Sept 2006 by  Paleoman   (Finds: 95   Score: 428)   (Hidden: 14   Score: 60)
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OK Bruce, I decided to give this one another try and this time I brought some secret weapons along to help locate the 3rd leg. Szuchie and Chickey decided to try this one with me and I am proud to say that this was a successful team effort. After arriving at the location of the second leg, we went right to work trying to find the clue to the 3rd leg. It was Szuchie who made the find and elation was felt by all. Off to the 3rd leg, this was a nice enjoyable stroll and Chickey and I discovered the clue at this location. Very clever and very KB like. Now with the coordinates for the final hide we scurried off to make this one official and to get this darn thing off my DNF list. The GPS led us to an area we were certain contained the final and Szuchie went in one way and I went in another, it wasn't long before I spotted it and Szuchie was on the verge also of making the find. Joy was shared by all of us at completing this cache and even more we enjoyed the wonderful walk back to our vehicles. As we signed the log book Szuchie found a pin in the logbook bag that had a picture of KillerB on it so he claimed that as a good luck piece that will help him finish all the KillerB caches. I took nothing from the box but I did take back some precious memories of an extraordinary place. Thank you so much Bruce for providing these wonderful caches and showing all of us some of the most spectacular scenery western New York State has to offer. -Paleoman52-
I found it! 17 Sept 2006 by  Szuchie   (Finds: 146   Score: 577)   (Hidden: 5   Score: 26)
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Hi KB! Szuchie here - I just wanted to say that beneath that evil KB code making front, you certainly have a knack of taking me to some amazing places. This was truly one of many outstanding highlights today as P-Man was kind enough to bring us along to experience the Sullivan Clinton Trail.
Of course when he brought us along, he actually wanted Chicky for her super-micro-finding skills...but unfortunately I'm just a pesky tag-along so he had to cart my dumb tookis around too. Hahaha. In what was perhaps my proudest moment today (and the only point I made any kind of substantial contribution to our geo-efforts!), I came up with the 2nd waypoint. Certainly your everyday clever KB hide!

So, feeling rather triumphant, we headed out onto what ended up being an amazing walk...I just can't describe it enough to give you any semblance of how magnificent this area is. It's just plain cool (yes, being dumbfounded limits my vocabulary...haha).

Upon arrival to the 3rd leg, I was off scoping out some of the local flora and Chicky and P-Man tag-teamed on the 3rd hide. Another bit of KB cleverness - and with this wonderful bit of information we were off to the final!!! All I can say, is that when P-Man found the final he was one happy fella. And yes, I did find a sweet pin in the cache that TOTALLY reminded me of you B. When next we meet, you'll have to take a gander at my backpack (now I need to find the pin and actually put it on my pack...haha).

This was a great hide Bruce - you always amaze us with the sights we get to see! 20 more cache finds to go and I think I'll have all the KB hides done...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Yeah, that won't be happening any time soon (so no worries! ). Thank you for a fantastic day with Chicky and P-Man - we had a blast!


I found it! 03 Jan 2004 by  Blackpete   (Finds: 406   Score: 1774)   (Hidden: 19   Score: 73)
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Well we came back today and can't believe we missed this the first time. Enjoyed the walk. Took nothing, left nothing.
I could not find it. 28 Dec 2003 by  Blackpete   (Finds: 406   Score: 1774)   (Hidden: 19   Score: 73)
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Found part 1 of course and then onto part 2. If we were in the right place, we didn't find the coords. Looked high and low, under and above everything in the area including the bird house that was used for target practice, road signs, guard rails, boards, rocks, and everything else. We either have the wrong coords or were not in the right frame of mind. We'll try again when we get back that way.
I found it! 19 Dec 2003 by  Harv and Donna   (Finds: 152   Score: 707)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
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1st of 2 Finds Today 19 Dec 03 Found at 2:30 PM
Looked for part 3 coordinates at part 2 with my daughter on 29 Nov for over an hour without any luck. Came back today and found them in about 2 minutes. Canít believe I missed them the 1st time. Part 3 was dead on and found it right away. But the cache had me going for a while. Good thing the coordinates were dead on. I agree with Junglehair and Brogan, this one is going to be tough real soon. Really liked part 2 and 3 though. Thanks for the challenging hide.
Harv & Donna (without Donna) Dansville, NY

I found it! 02 Nov 2003 by  Cracker7M   (Finds: 35   Score: 168.5)   (Hidden: 5   Score: 22)
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Well KillerB, I finally made it back to conquer this one this afternoon with Junglehair... :)
Unfortunately, Junglehair is the one who figured out the first clue...Then the second.... :(
But at least I huckled her on the final cache... ;)

The coords for all but the first stop were right on. GPS's brought us to within 10ft or so of each point. The first coords are close enough, as the plaque is easily found.

Funny, it was a cool, dreary and rainy day, just like the day I made my first attempt at this cache.

I think I'll blame the wasps for not finding this on the first attempt....yeah, yeah, thats it...its because of the wasps...

Thanx for taking us to a GREAT part of the swamp, and for the history lesson.

If anyone going after this cache is into photography, and especially B&W, then TAKE YOUR CAMERA! I was wishing I had had mine, as the trees coming out of the water, and the fog over the swamp would have made for GREAT photos...

I think early morning or late day would be the best time to attempt this cache...

I could not find it. 27 Sept 2003 by  Cracker7M   (Finds: 35   Score: 168.5)   (Hidden: 5   Score: 22)
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Well,now....I thought I would finally give this one a try, after not being able to all week...

I thought for sure someone would have already found it...

I found the first location OK, (of course).
I am pretty sure I even calculated all the numbers of the code correctly, too...

But then, it went downhill from there... I got stumped...I could not find any clues at either of the next locations.

Guess I'll have to try again later...[;()

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