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by Robin Lovelock
(Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)

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Coordinates ( WGS-84 datum )
N 51° 21.744'   W 000° 34.429'
This may not be the actual cache coordinate.

Longcross ,    Surrey   
United Kingdom    Near By Caches

Hidden On: 09 Oct 2001
Waypoint (Landmark): N000DD
Open Cache:    Personal use only
Cache type:    Multi-Part
Cache size:    Large

Difficulty:   gps gps half gps (moderate)
Terrain:   gps (easy)
Misc: No drinking water! No restrooms (water closets) available Pets are allowed. Parking is available No fees!


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New ! PLEASE KEEP TO THE WELL TRODDEN PATHS. Chobham Common is an important National Nature Reserve, so please do not give Geocaching a bad name: do not go thrashing through the heather. If you want to find the geocache you will need a printout of these clues, and a pencil, in addition to your GPS. You should be able to (eventually) find the large tupperware box without too much trouble - and you will be able to do it without straying from the footpaths.

Your mission starts by locating a virtual cache and using what you see to decrypt this:

Clue ticket in tree stump at N ca fa.kec W d eb.cea = N _ _ _ _ . _ _ _ W _ _ _ . _ _ _

- using answers to these questions:

How many acres ? = abcd = _ _ _ _, so a = _ , b = _ , c = _ and d = _

How many wild flowers ? = ecd = _ _ _, so e = _
How many species of butterfly ? = fg = _ _, so f = _ and g = _
h = b+b = _ and k = h-f = _

The clue ticket has the lat/lon of the cache itself and a clue where to look.

The "Gracious Pond" Geocache is well hidden, walking distance along paths near this lovely water-lily covered pond near Chobham. This is not the area of Chobham Common marked as Gracious Pond on the O.S. map - that pond probably dried up years ago.
The geocache is only a few minutes walk from the car park at N 51 21.744 W 000 34.422 which has a bar over the entrance stopping vehicles higher than 6'6". Camper vans may be able to find a spot on the verge of Gracious Pond Road, which continues from Red Lion Road named after the pub by that name. There are some nice footpaths in this area, which is adjacent to Chobham village and Chobham Common. The village has a good selection of pubs and restaurants. You may want to look and the map and information board in the car park when planning your walk.

This is the usual Lovelock Geoacache, holding disposable camera for you to take a picture then return to the cache, toys and books for children, several cuddley toys, and lots of other low cost "goodies". The very least you should do when visiting Gracious Pond is take a stroll around the pond. Water lilies were still in flower when the cache was planted in October. There are some nice, large carp in the pond - but the fishing is private. It took me 10 years on the waiting list before I joined the Chobham and District Angling Club.

Take a slice of bread with you: if there are no anglers to annoy, try creeping quietly and slowly around the edge of the pond, dropping a small bit of bread on the water - the carp will often rise for it. For those who like to know where the nearest pub is - it's at N 51 21.744 W 000 34.422 The Red Lion ;-)

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I found it! 15 Sept 2010 by  sandvika   (Finds: 51   Score: 142.5)   (Hidden: 13   Score: 66.5)
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What a relief - after six successive misses on Navicaches starting at Richmond Park in March, I have finally found one! Thanks for replacing it so quickly Robin. The question now is whether the process of heathland restoration by elimination of non-native species will result in the cache disappearing again soon, or whether the suckers have been left on purpose for the sake of job preservation, thereby warranting a return visit in a few years' time.

This time my visit was a quick lunchbreak affair, minus GPSr but with walking stick and the cache was located with just my third tap, making it a very easy find, despite the fact that it was well hidden and could easily have been overlooked by other methods!

I wanted to swap the golf ball for a dinosaur, but the lid would not stay shut with the dinosaur inside and consequently I had to reverse the trade. Never mind - I'd had in mind to return to a recent puzzle cache and place the golf ball there as a very topical swap, but there will be other such opportunities, I am sure.

TFTC, Sandvika (Find #1002)
Note 09 Sept 2010 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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It was interesting to see the spot, as described, and so different to how I remember it from years earlier. As it happens I was able to find a spot that was closer to the clue ticket description and location than the original spot - which is now just charred remains.
Note 06 Sept 2010 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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Many Thanks - I'll archive then replace soon. Robin
I could not find it. 05 Sept 2010 by  sandvika   (Finds: 51   Score: 142.5)   (Hidden: 13   Score: 66.5)
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DNF 2 out of 4 for the afternoon. I can confirm that Robin's arithmetic is fine as I found the clue ticket easily on my orbit of the Gracious Pond and headed off for GZ which all seemed nice and straightforward. Too straightforward by half. I got to GZ and indeed there were tiny little plants all around of the required type, but it seemed to me they were all suckers from the main event, which was no longer a splendid place for hiding a cache, but a burned out stump.

Clearly the fire had been raised to destroy the bush and it had done so. I was expecting a large cache as is normally the case for Robin's hides and none of the remaining shrubbery seemed larged enough to conceal it, though remembering Sunningdale Golf I gave it a thorough rummaging to make sure. I cursed my lack of walking pole which would have been great for prodding, as I was unable to find anything in the vicinity with which to prod. Finally a call to Robin confirmed the scale of the hiding place and clearly nothing that remained fit the bill, so I concluded that the cache had been removed before the bush was destroyed.

TFTH, Sandvika.
Note 15 Apr 2009 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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Oh dear - Many Thanks Amberel for checking my 'rithmetic and finding that my updated page was wrong. I hope it is correct now. Decoding the lat/lon should now take you to the tree stump holding clue tickets, rather than to the cache itself. This way you cannot avoid seeing that lovely lily-covered lake :-)
Note 14 Apr 2009 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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Just got back from checking all three locations. Amberel may want to check the 'rithmatic to make sure I've not mada mistaka :-) I checked the first spot and have put back the bit about butterflies - so you have to read more :-) Then I went to the clue ticket location and hid 5 more tickets - just in case any get lost. Then I went to where the cache itself was, and did a bit of maintenance. I copied Amberel's few words across into the newer, dryer log book, along with mine to say when it was done. The old log book is still there, damp as ever, with "old" written on it. The new log book is in a plastic bag, inside a small box with it's own small things to swap, and this all fits inside the old box. I removeed the camera and rather damp furry toys to dry them out at home. I then put the box back, but used one or two things to make it slightly less visible. I'll be fascinated if anyone manages to find this cache - probably one of the more tricky.
Note 14 Apr 2009 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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I'm still amazed that Ambrel managed to find this cache. I hope I've updated the clues correctly based on Ambrel's email to me saying what is now on the sign. Lots of 'rithmatic :-) I've made some clue tickets and am about to pop over and plant them, in case any go missing. No harm in others checking my new clues now on the page. I may also visit the cache and pop in a dryer log book :-)
Note 13 Apr 2009 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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Thanks Ambrel. I think I will make this an easier cache without those clue tickets. I'm amazed you found it. Well Done ! :-)
I found it! 13 Apr 2009 by  Amberel   (Finds: 61   Score: 201.5)   (Hidden: 2   Score: 11.5)
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Found it :-) And, as I will explain later, a pretty good find.

We had intended to take Maisie the Cocker Spaniel for a walk at Hampton Court today but, unable to be certain about where dogs were permitted, we came here instead. As well as Maisie, I was accompanied by Mrs. A and Bex, one of my daughters.

The first obstacle to overcome was that I'm certain several of the numbers on the notice board have changed since Robin and June set the cache. I'll email the current figures to them, but after applying some logic and intelligent guesswork I came up with a location and off we went.

I told Marion and Bex to look for a big box, but there was no sign of it. After a little while Maisie started getting impatient to start walking again, so off they went up the footpath while I had one last cast around. And I spied the little laminated chit in a crack in the tree stump. As I was conciously looking for a large tupperware box, I'm both amazed and pleased that I spotted this insignificant little scrap of paper :-)

The second obstacle to overcome was that after all these years it's become a little faded in parts, and one or two of the characters are hard to make out (e.g. g or 9?). So once again I had to guess at what it probably was, and once again I guessed right :-)

Off we went again, and soon arrived at what was mentioned in the hint on the chit. Bex went in from one side and I went in from the other, and we met in the middle :-)

Unsurprisingly the cache was no drier than when Robin last visited 15 months ago, but the log book was still writable. I emptied out a little more water that had accumulated and we packed it all away again until the next visitor. Let's hope that isn't too long, as it was a nice walk in what eventually turned out to be a sunny afternoon.

Thanks for the cache,

Rgds, Andy
[Modified 2009-04-13 14:27:54]

   camera Bex approaching from the other side
Note 26 Jan 2008 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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Robin and June, the cache planters, had picked up some logs from a friend, and decided to take a walk near here. We decided to check this old cache, planted in October 2001 - and found it was still here ! Did not use the GPS, and did not re-check the clues that need to be solved. The bushes were certainly bigger than I remember, but I still found it immediately. Tipped out an enormous quanity of water, although the log book, in it's protected bag, despite being very damp, could just about be written in carefully with a pencil. Maybe a BB pencil would have been easier. Did not write much other than who we were and the time of find at 1615 today Saturday 26 January 2008 ! :-)
I found it! 25 Aug 2003 by  thecookiecrew   (Finds: 1   Score: 3.5)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
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We too were originally planning to do a dodgydaved cache "Quote, Unquote", however whilst doing our homework for that one we spotted that someone else had reported finding another cache nearby. Found it on this site and so our first Navicache cache was found.... Left a calling call but TNLN.... Cheated a little as we didn't solve the puzzles.... Log book is still a little short of finds....

Thanks Robin for a good cache, maybe now we will have a go at some of your others....

The CookieCrew
Note 25 Apr 2003 by  Robin Lovelock   (Finds: 12   Score: 34)   (Hidden: 48   Score: 142)
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0930 Friday 25th April 2003: from Robin, the cache planter. I just HAD to check this out after Peter and David told me about this coincidence - and found this, my own cache quickly - of course. Saw that the Hornet was the first to find the cache and I'm not surprised. Far fewer visit the other geocaching sites and this one is difficult. After decoding the clues at the first waypoint you need to go to a second to find a clue ticket with this lat/lon. I visited that spot after this and was pleased to find one of the original tickets. I left a few more just in case some go missing. Good job that I phoned Dodgy David on my mobile because I might have spent more time looking for his cache in the same bush. I understand he moved it yesterday and has updated his geocaching page accordingly. What a coincidence ! I can only say that this cache was planted over a year earlier - so I claim first rights to this bush ! :-) But of course, there's room for more here, and if it were not for David, noone would have found this one of mine yet :-) Sorry Peter, but I had to take the book - difficult to close the box - but I left the waterproof bag, thanks. Put a plastic racoon in its place. Glad that David's cache was not here: June and I can find it properly, decoding his clues, on another day. Will read that book then pop it into a suitable large cache - probably one of Dodgy Davids. Many Thanks you guys. Robin
I found it! 23 Apr 2003 by  The Hornet   (Finds: 1   Score: 3.5)   (Hidden: 23   Score: 64.5)
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This was MOST peculiar. I was actually looking for one of Dodydaved's caches (Quote Unquote). Here's a copy of the log for that one. You'll see why I've done it this way. Read on......

Did the research last night so this was my first cache of the day. A nice easy walk from the carpark and an easy find.

However just as I was about to retrieve it I had to walk away as a dog walker strolled past. Had a chat and he asked if I was hunting snakes. I tried to explain and showed him the GPS. 'Ah yes' he said pulling out his mobile phone ' where would we be without Nokia'!!!!!!

Once he'd gone I retrieved the cache and filled in the log. TNLN. As I found it so easily I thought I'd better hide it a little deeper. This is where it got strange as I found a second cache in the same spot not 2 feet away!!!!! This was from another cache site but hey there's room for everyone. Filled in that log as well (a FTF) and took a picture of myself.

What a great start to the day.
I could not find it. 01 Sept 2002 by  dodgydaved   (Finds: 8   Score: 21)   (Hidden: 0   Score: 0)
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Well, we got to the car park, transcribed the clues and entered the co-ords to the GPSr and off we went.

Round the pond with a cheery hello to cyclists and a quiet nod to fishermen and off up the hill.

The GPSr pointed straight to a tree stump.

We searched and searched. We looked at other tree stumps in the locality.

We looked down holes, up trees and in brambles.

Then, knowing yer man, we looked for another clue rather than a cache.

We found zilch.

Another of Robin's that we will have to go back to.

dodgydaved and Isobel

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